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    Re:Pick up the phone!
    by michael (froomkin@lawUNSPAM.tm) on Monday April 02 2007, @05:52AM (#16933)
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    Actually, what we're about primarily is DOCUMENTING what ICANN does. That does tend to be after the fact. But since ICANN routinely lies about what it does, and even has been known to backdate documents, that is an important function.

    I'm sure you, as an ICANN employee, would prefer not to have critics but, unsurprisingly, wishing does not make it so.

    Perhaps if ICANN were to actually give end-users real power in the organization, those who think end-user issues are important might engage with it again despite having been burned so many times in the past.

    Incidentally, I might note for your information -- since you like to insult people as not working in the particular ways you approve of (ie. inside ICANN) and don't seem very well informed about us here -- that I am on the Nomcom, and that I am therefore deeply engaged in trying to make ICANN better in a manner entirely consistent with my view of how ICANN works (the Board rules).

    In general, may I suggest that you re-think how you intend to engage your critics. Your method of insulting and attacking them is not going to productive. It may please your masters in the short run, but it may also lead to a short tenure as when you become the flashpoint for controversy you will find that they consider you disposable ... much as they have previous spokespersons.
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    Re:Pick up the phone!
    by Kieren McCarthy on Monday April 02 2007, @08:22AM (#16934)
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    I am simply amazed at this response.

    It appears to be specifically designed to infuriate me personally. It is incredible how an important discussion about how to give more individuals more power within ICANN has descended, in just a handful of comments, into an effort to provoke personal animosity.

    I have nothing but respect for Professor Michael Froomkin and in the course of the many interviews I have had with him over the years, both on and off the record, I have found his insights and knowledge incredibly useful. I hope I will continue to find myself in that position.

    Since there is a personal element in this, let me answer in a personal capacity. What I do - and what I will continue to do - is ask questions.

    Wherever I see something that doesn't seem right, I ask questions about it. And then when, as happens in most cases where people are not comfortable with the answers and so refuse to provide them, I make those questions and the answers as public as possible.

    Naturally, alot of people don't like this. And even those that see the value of it hate it when the questions are directed toward them.

    I mostly ignored the inaccuracies, fantasies and vague conspiracies about ICANN when I was reporting on the organisation. Sometimes I would check them out and then waste hours researching claims that turned out to be no more than one person's groundless feeling.

    It also wasn't in my interests as a reporter to waste time on them. The story was what ICANN was actually doing, not what others claimed ICANN was doing, having taken one fact, done no research and extrapolated it into a vague conspiracy.

    Now, working for ICANN, it is in my interests to pay attention to the people that misrepresent what the organisation is doing, often making the wildest claims with the weakest evidence. Objectivity and research thrown out the window to be first with another over-excited complaint.

    If ICANNWatch - or any other individual or organisation - produces material that points to a failing in an ICANN process, I will feel duty bound to find out what happened and try to fix it.

    But I also feel duty bound to the people that I hope to bring into ICANN for the first time, people from across the world who care about the Internet and not about old scores; people who want to share information, not misrepresent it.

    They will not get all their information from ICANN - and nor should they - but if that information from outside is incorrect and if I then I have to spend a significant amount of my time correcting false assertions, then you can bet I will turn up on messageboards taking issue.

    I never apologised to ICANN for giving it a hard time, and I will not apologise to anyone else either. However I did recognise ICANN when it occasionally improved, and I will offer the same positive response and thanks to any organisation that highlights real issues with the ICANN model.

    Kieren McCarthy
    General manager of public participation, ICANN
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    ICANNWatch - documenting ICANN?
    by Kieren McCarthy on Monday April 02 2007, @08:34AM (#16935)
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