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    narrow-minded
    by Anonymous on Thursday May 18 2006, @02:17PM (#16780)
    Narrow minded opinion.
    It is quite normal that current, former, or future ICANN directors are in this group. Who else do you want to see there? Another group of university professors?
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    You missed one sitting ICANN director
    by KarlAuerbach on Thursday May 18 2006, @04:45PM (#16781)
    User #3243 Info | http://www.cavebear.com/
    Your count of ICANN directors named to the advisory group is short by one: Daniel Dardailler

    By-the-way, my name was in the pot, and from examination of the results, apparently I lost out to Gallagher. One thing about nominating committees - they act in secret so we will never know why Gallagher was chosen.

    By-the-way, when at NTIA Gallagher locked himself behind protective clerks so that he could refrain from talking about matters that actually pertain to the technical stability of the net - I know, I tried to raise his attention to a risk when the root zone was modified to include IPv6 name server records without any actual experiments to verify whether it was safe.
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    ICANN Moving to Up-Scale UN Community - To Hide ??
    by Anonymous on Saturday May 20 2006, @07:21AM (#16783)
    ICANN Moving to Up-Scale UN Community - To Hide ??

    Now that ICANN is more than fully funded, their
    strategy can change to protecting their cash cows
    and HIDING from public scrutiny. What better place
    to do that than a major meat-space community, like
    the UN.

    ICANN can direct public opinion at the new group
    of self-appointed stuffed shirts, and laugh all
    the way to the bank. The new "spin" will be,
    "The UN Community Made ICANN Do It". That will
    add one more group to the endless
    run-around-games that the digerati use to
    distract the public.

    Cerf will of course be wheeled-in (literally)
    from time to time to allow people to kiss his
    ring. The new mantra will be, "of course ICANN is
    legitamate, look !! it has the backing of the
    United Nations."
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    the Government recognized the need for the "IANA"
    by Anonymous on Saturday May 20 2006, @07:46AM (#16787)
    1

    Read the rest of this comment...

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    "a few civil society people added as a fig leaf."
    by Anonymous on Saturday May 20 2006, @08:43AM (#16792)
    I must confess I've totally lost sense of where the IGF is going - it was supposed to deal with issues that weren't discussed anywhere else, and there's plenty of REAL issues going on out there right now, such as "net neutrality" or the mass introduction of trusted computing, that will deeply affect the substantial developments taken by the Internet and by the information society.

    But it now looks that the composition of the advisory group (without offense to the bright individuals and friends who have been selected there, and to the incredibly hard and difficult work of the Secretariat) resembles more a cold war scenario, with each side standing in force to prevent the others from doing anything, than a cooperative environment to discuss and solve actual problems. And, in any case, it really looks like governments versus ICANN+ISOC+ICC, with a few civil society people added as a fig leaf.

    From the point of view of civil society, most of the active and bright contingent we had in the WGIG (keep me out of this category if you like, as I wasn't even confirmed in the list of civil society nominees this time) has been replaced by ICANN and ISOC people, and 2/3 of our nominations have been rejected.

    And if I may, this is what I think we should have said in a "caucus statement" (not to open the can of worms on how in the world could anyone think about making a caucus statement without even consulting the list once).

    Perhaps, this period of strong disappointments will pass, but it is now clear to me that any of us could do better good by, say, writing free code that allows users to affirm their rights, rather than by spending time in these futile processes, where we can't get much more than some ego satisfaction for the few of us that get their fifteen minutes of fame on the lectern. There's no point in participating in "open" and "democratic" and "inclusive" processes in which our desire to discuss the issues we care about is constantly frustrated.

    I'm glad I didn't waste one day of my life to come to Geneva today.
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    not just internet
    by joppenheimer on Sunday May 21 2006, @09:27PM (#16794)
    User #5 Info | http://JudithOppenheimer.com
    FWIW, Patrik Fältström is also ENUM WG co-chair along with Neustar's Richard Shockey.
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