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    In Historic Vote on WHOIS Purpose, Reformers Win by 2/3 Majority | Log in/Create an Account | Top | 7 comments | Search Discussion
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    Statutory authority?
    by KarlAuerbach on Wednesday April 12 2006, @12:49PM (#16682)
    User #3243 Info | http://www.cavebear.com/
    I'd like the US delegation to ICANN's GAC to articulate, chapter and verse, with precision and depth, the legal basis, if any, on which it partipates in a policy-making role on a committee of a private corporation.

    In the US we pay our yearly taxes in three days. And I really don't want my government spending my tax money flying around the world attending meetings when it has no legal basis for doing so.
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    • Pain by Anonymous Monday May 29 2006, @09:53AM
    DNS Does Not Require Whois -Why Is ICANN Involved?
    by Anonymous on Wednesday April 12 2006, @04:16PM (#16683)
    DNS Does Not Require Whois -Why Is ICANN Involved?

    1. ICANN claims to only have a narrow charter with respect to DNS.

    2. Whois is glued on to DNS and many clueless attorneys think the whois IS the DNS.

    3. Now that there are multi-layered Registrars, the WHOIS one may see as a Registrant may not be the Real Whois. Resellers lock people into an account which is only loosely coupled to a real Registrar and the Reseller's account. When a user tries to renew their name, they find the Registrar  has sold it out from under the Reseller to another party. ICANN does nothing of course and has never
    pulled a Registrar's license to print money. Resellers are screwed and their customers are really screwed.

    4. With #3, there are now many whois interfaces, yet ICANN claims to create a stable platform.

    5. With the DNS de-coupled from WHOIS, the ICANN house of cards folds quickly.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    "this room is practically empty."
    by Anonymous on Wednesday April 12 2006, @04:21PM (#16684)
    “I think that the best proof of how much ICANN is failing is the fact that this room is practically empty.

    “Some may think that if people don’t show up things are just going smoothly … but the fact is that if people don’t show up [here], they will show up somewhere else and they will set up something else that suits their needs better.

    ”And, I guess, there’s plenty of people in the audience, and especially who are not in the audience any more, that would be able to set up alternate systems to what ICANN is managing now,” he says.
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    It's not that the glass is half empty...
    by michael (froomkin@lawUNSPAM.tm) on Wednesday April 12 2006, @06:52PM (#16689)
    User #4 Info | http://www.discourse.net/
    ...it's the wrong glass.

    Yes, within the terms of the ICANN universe this a rare, huge, important, win for sanity.

    But consider -- what is being advocated here is (as a definitional matter) nothing more than the status quo ante; the "purpose" of Whois voted by a 2/3 majority is exactly the one that the Internet's founders imagined.

    So let's not get too excited. The "progress" here is merely a step towards undoing harms done during the period of ICANN 'stewardship' over the root. Had ICANN been faithful to the original purpose of Whois, instead of caving to the IP lobby, we'd have had privacy protection for whois years ago. Instead, it's still a long way away -- if it ever materializes.

    I congratulate the participants in the GNSO for their Sitzfleisch, but it's two cheers at most.
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    Stupid decision
    by FatMixG on Thursday May 18 2006, @05:59AM (#16779)
    User #4296 Info
    This decision will result in increased costs to some business. Now subpoena's will be required to obtain the information for legitimate trademark owners, copyright owners and victims of libel in order to find out who is violating thier rights. Even domain disputes may become difficult. What's the big deal, if you form a corporation you usually have to provide some contact information which is publicly available in most states.
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