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    He Who Has the Gold Rules
    by michael (froomkin@lawUNSPAM.tm) on Thursday March 30 2006, @12:11PM (#16666)
    User #4 Info | http://www.discourse.net/
    The trouble with ICANN, right from the start, was that so many people bought into the "stakeholder" model which says people spending a lot of money should get more consideration for their views (because they are bigger 'stakeholders', or have a bigger 'stake').

    Why more people were not angry at this crony corporatism from the start is one of the many mysteries of this whole saga.
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    Time to re-incorporate?
    by KarlAuerbach on Thursday March 30 2006, @02:51PM (#16667)
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    Perhaps Vint has not realized the import of his statement:

    If ICANN is, in fact, some sort of industrial "multi-stakeholder" body then it is no longer appropriate for ICANN to remain incorporated as either a California "public benefit" corporation or receive a US Federal exemption under the terms of 501(c)(3).
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    Vinton Cerf Shocked at the Registrar Scams
    by Anonymous on Sunday April 23 2006, @12:13PM (#16715)
    Vinton Cerf Shocked at the Registrar Scams

    Vinton Cerf and Paul Twinkie recently waded into
    the un-washed masses of Registrars, Resellers,
    domain brokers, tasters, phishers, scammers,
    collectors, lawyers, sharks, and sleeze-balls at
    a recent trade show.

    Vinton Cerf was clearly a fish out of water and
    in shock. Cerf, is accustomed to BIG scams such as the
    Worldcom scam where he and Bernie Ebbers picked
    the U.S. Government's pocket for over $11 Billion
    dollars. Cerf is clearly not cut out for the
    sleezy day-to-day nickel and dime domain name scams which run
    consumers in circles while Registrars laugh all
    the way to the bank.

    The Registrars of course hold up their "ICANN
    Badge" and claim everything they
    do is "legal". Pay no attention to ethics. ICANN
    has never sanctioned a Registrar or Registy.
    ICANN and Vinton Cerf just turn and look the
    other way, and run back to their ivory towers.

    The only solution is of course to provide new
    technology that allows companues and consumers
    to securely register and renew their domain names
    in the global name space without having their
    pockets picked by all of ICANN's representatives
    who claim to provide stability and security.
    The ICANN stability and security model is built
    on the closed circle of Registrars that really
    think they own the names and the Verisign central
    hub that tolerates the scams. Consumers are on
    the outside looking in and get the run-around
    from the Registrars, for a fee.

    Compare that to a true Internet-model system
    where the consumers own the domain names and the
    equipment that proves they own the names. There
    is no need for Verisign, or Registrars. It is a
    much more stable and secure solution. The Network
    **IS** the Registry.
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