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    Also give the Privacy Act a try
    by KarlAuerbach on Wednesday February 15 2006, @10:42PM (#16604)
    User #3243 Info | http://www.cavebear.com/
    You might also find grounds under the Privacy Act of 1974 (5 USC 552a - don't miss that little 'a' else you end up at FOIA instead of PA.)

    The argument would be about definitions - whether the registration information for .us is a system of records that is under the control of an agency of the US Gov't. Given NTIA's intrusive hand my guess is that there is a strong argument to believe that such control exists and that the private registry operator is merely a facade acting under the contractual control of a governmental decision maker.

    If that threshold hurdle is overcome, then all the PA's requirements about publication of the rules of the system of records, its purpose, etc etc, come into play.

    I raised this same issue with NSF way back in 1997 and got a really weasly answer that didn't comport with even the most rude, much less rudimentary, notions of administrative process. Let me know and I'll scrounge up the pointers (all the materials are online.)
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    by Anonymous on Thursday February 16 2006, @08:45AM (#16608)

    Neustar, ICANN, ISOC and the U.S. Government insiders that continue to shape the [fading] DNS (and whois) terrain of cyberspace will be happy
    to take the high-ground with you in the middle as
    their "toy". You will be like the fat kid with the
    thick glasses as the school-yard bullies encircle
    you and laugh at you. Their little clique is very
    well known and very tight. They laugh all the way
    to the bank. You are their sport, their toys. If
    you choose to play, they will be happy to toss
    the ball from one player to the other, just over
    your head. You get the honor of paying them
    for the game. They are headed out on their next
    vacation junket, paid for by netizens. When the
    funding stops, they cease to exist.

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Any Free Speech Left in .US?
    by Anonymous on Thursday February 16 2006, @09:10AM (#16609)
    Any Free Speech Left in .US?

    Was there ever any ?

    Have you looked at the recent NAIVE comments from
    Esther's latest stooge placed on the ICANN Board ?
    She is pointing fingers at China for censorship
    while orchestrating more subtle censorship via
    the "ICANN Community". When it is subtle, it is
    apparently OK. That is the game, having a variety
    of players to confuse naive on-lookers. Those
    naive participants are of course named as part
    of "the community" and their views are shaped by
    the insiders.

    NAIVE + NEFARIOUS = a Human Tragedy

    ICANN and their tight circle of Registries love to
    have NAIVE people continue to enter their arenas. .US was corrupt under the Postel Regime and it
    has not changed.

    Do you think .CUBA will change whan Castro dies ?
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    From Esther's New Stooge on the ICANN Board
    by Anonymous on Thursday February 16 2006, @09:44AM (#16610)
    Cable rules? Broadcast rules? Network rules? [or ICANN rules?]

    "The only reason to regulate here (cynicism) would be to protect the business models of existing broadcasters [Registrars] and the telcos/cablecos [Registries] who want to become broadcasters and want to create barriers to entry to others. There is no scarcity or "public airwave" or "invasion into the home" or spectrum allocation rationale for regulation of online video."

    There is no scarcity in the name-space. Just make .COM the new root and call it a day. Forty plus
    million TLDs can't be wrong. Oops, better start
    to worry about that [job] security and stability
    and the load on the .COM servers. Funny, that has
    not ever been a concern before.

    Just imagine .COM is not there and it is just a
    dot, the root at the right.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Internet[1] Law & Policy Specialist
    by Anonymous on Thursday February 16 2006, @10:20AM (#16611)
    Kathryn Kleiman
    Internet[1] Law & Policy Specialist
    McLeod, Watkinson & Miller
    Washington DC

    Internet[1] Law & Policy Specialist

    No allowed (by law) on Internet[2]

    Internet[1] = 100% lawyers (sharks) feeding on each other

    Internet[2] = intelligent humans
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Mike Roberts Speaks Out - Yet Takes No Blame
    by Anonymous on Monday February 20 2006, @10:29AM (#16618)
    Mike Roberts Speaks Out - Yet Takes No Blame

    "The Villain in the ICANN-VeriSign Struggle is the U.S. Government"

    "The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions"

    "ICANN, VeriSign and the government currently are bound to each other in an incestuous legal triangle in front of which an appearance of public-private partnership is maintained. This arrangement masks the monopoly related tensions which have surfaced in the latest contract renewal debate. It suits VeriSign’s economic objectives and the government’s political objectives to have a facade of privatization over the DNS and to make it appear that the ICANN-VeriSign negotiations are simply the working out of differences among private partners in the DNS."

    Yep, it is a sham, a charade, nothing new.

    Could the real villian be the steady stream of
    naive ICANN wannabees and the nefarious actors
    that spend millions each year on psych-ops and
    operatives to divide and confuse the masses ?
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Only 57% ? Dictator Cerf Will Raise the Bar to 60%
    by Anonymous on Monday February 20 2006, @11:00AM (#16619)
    "57 percent of those currently registered"[1]

    Only 57% ? Dictator Cerf Will Raise the Bar to 60%

    Nice try Registrars, but no cigar. The ICANN
    Dictator will just "re-spin" the required bar for
    consensus to be 60%. Reach that level and he
    will raise it to 75%. Get a clue, Cerf is
    laughing all the way to the bank.

    Registrars would be better off putting up their
    own copy of the .COM servers and show that they
    can collectively operate them for pennies per
    year per domain. That of course will not matter
    when Verisign and their ICANN division get
    ready to role out the new technology that makes
    Registrars go away, or become equal to any other

    Opposition to ICANN-VeriSign Proposal Grows
    Feb 15, 2006
    Posted by CircleID Reporter

    Eight of the world’s largest domain registrars have sent an open letter to ICANN Chairman Vint Cerf, stating their formal opposition to the revised proposition with VeriSign for continued control of the Internet registry.

    The eight signatories, which lay claim to 25 million domain names, or 57 percent of those currently registered, are GoDaddy, Network Solutions, Tucows, Register.com, BulkRegister, Schlund + Partner AG, Melbourne IT and Intercosmos Media Group.
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