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    Google Buys ICANN - Who Owns the GOOGLE.com Name?
    by Anonymous on Thursday September 08 2005, @09:42AM (#16194)
    Google Buys ICANN - Who Owns the GOOGLE.com Name?

    As reported earlier by ICANNwatchers, Google is
    one of the main benefactors of the Big Lie
    Society artificial scarcity policies perpetuated
    by ICANN, ARIN, ISOC, etc. Google is also very
    vulnerable to the growing realization that THEY
    (Google) do not really own the Google.COM name.
    ISPs and equipment in people's homes can server
    that name locally. Google became an ICANN
    Registrar to try to move closer to the Verisign
    Registry, which claims to own the .COM names.

    Verisign and ICANN of course go away with the
    new distributed DNS architecture where the
    Registry is NOT stored in a central database.
    Small smart-nodes in a mesh-grid create the
    Registry, like a bit-torrent.

    Eric Schmidt, the CEO of Google is not stupid.
    As one of the long-time king-pins of The Big
    Lie Society, he sees that Google can continue
    to muscle their way in and control more of the
    marketshare and mind-share. Vinton Cerf from
    the Postel Workers Labor Union will help them
    lead those efforts. Jimmy Hoffa would be proud.

    http://www.google.com/press/pressrel/vin tcerf.html

    Vint Cerf, a Founding Father of the Internet, Joins Google as Chief Internet Evangelist

    MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif. – September 8, 2005 – Google Inc. (NASDAQ: GOOG) today announced that it hired Vinton (Vint) Cerf, the longtime technologist who is widely known as a "founding father" of the Internet, as Chief Internet Evangelist.

    "Vint Cerf is clearly one of the great technology leaders of our time," said Google CEO Eric Schmidt of Cerf, who co-designed the TCP/IP protocols that were used to develop the Internet's underlying architecture. "His vision for technology helped create entire industries that have transformed many parts of our lives. We are honored to welcome him to Google."
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    Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer vowed to "kill" Google
    by Anonymous on Thursday September 08 2005, @06:43PM (#16195)
    http://news.com.com/Court+docs+Ballmer+vowed+to+ki ll+Google/2100-1014_3-5846243.html
    Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer vowed to "kill" Google in an expletive-laced, chair-throwing tirade when a senior engineer told him he was leaving the company to go work for Google, the engineer claimed in court documents made public on Friday.

    "At that point, Mr. Ballmer picked up a chair and threw it across the room hitting a table in his office," Lucovosky recounted, adding that Ballmer then launched into a tirade about Google CEO Eric Schmidt. "I'm going to f***ing bury that guy, I have done it before, and I will do it again. I'm going to f***ing kill Google." Schmidt previously worked for Sun Microsystems and was the CEO of Novell.
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    Re:Google Buys ICANN - Who Owns the GOOGLE.com Nam
    by Anonymous on Thursday September 08 2005, @06:49PM (#16196)
    Now that Cerf has pushed all names into .COM
    he can join Google and extract fees from .COM
    companies to be showcased on Google. Google
    was one of the main lobbyists opposed to new
    TLDs. Now people see why.

    http://www.cavebear.com/cbblog-archives/00 0189.html

    July 26, 2005
    The Power of Google

    The other night I was chatting with my wife about things and I mentioned a TV show that I saw back in the 1980's about a home-brew nuclear device in which the bomb-squad person who cuts the cliché red or green wire makes the wrong choice.

    So I went to Google to find the movie.  I had a hard time finding it.  (I eventually did - it was the 1983 show Special Bulletin.)  But along the way I more than once wondered whether my memory was playing games on me.

    The meta-thought that came about was this:  There is all this noise about whether the internet should have one single domain name system (DNS) namespace (an argument more frequently cast, incorrectly, as whether the internet shall have one catholic DNS root.)  Yet, with the rise of a highly dominant search engine, Google, the policies and choices of Google have a much greater power to define what is, and what is not, on the internet than do any policies about the domain name system.

    To an increasing degree, if it ain't in Google, it doesn't exist.  That's scary.
    Posted by karl at July 26, 2005 08:10 AM
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    Re:Google Buys ICANN - Who Owns the GOOGLE.com Nam
    by Anonymous on Thursday September 08 2005, @06:54PM (#16197)
    New.Net is also in the Search Engine business.

    Vinton Cerf can now more openly crush New.Net,
    by censoring their TLDs.

    Cable.TV.Like boxes that make Google disappear
    to consumers will also help to now make Cerf
    transparent. Is that what ICANN means by
    transparent ?
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    No Surprise the U.S.G. Runs MCI and Ousted Cerf
    by Anonymous on Thursday September 08 2005, @07:00PM (#16198)
    No Surprise the U.S.G. Runs MCI and Ousted Cerf

    Vinton Cerf and Bernie Ebbers conspired to
    hide over $11 Billion dollars from the U.S.G.
    Bernie Ebbers is now in prison. Vinton Cerf
    does not appear to have any intention of
    returning any of that $11 Billion. No surprise.
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    That ICANDO Attitude or YOUCANT Do That ?
    by Anonymous on Thursday September 08 2005, @07:28PM (#16199)
    That ICANDO Attitude or YOUCANT Do That ?


    "This is a place that's just full of creative energy, and I like places like that," Cerf said.

    Cerf said he often meets young people pursuing radical ideas in technology because they "don't know you can't do that, so they go of and do it."

    "And there's nothing more refreshing than that (can do) attitude," he said.
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    Re:Google Buys ICANN - Who Owns the GOOGLE.com Nam
    by Anonymous on Friday September 09 2005, @03:38AM (#16200)
    One of Cerf's jobs is to make sure that Google
    "owns" all of the GOOGLE.[ccTLD] names.

    Stay tuned for the GOOGLE [aka ICANN] meeting
    coming up in New Zealand.


    Note: Postel's cronies run the .NZ top level domain, not the country of New Zealand. .NZ is run from
    Arizona, home of Esther Dyson's annual cartel meeting.
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    Re:Google Buys ICANN - Who Owns the GOOGLE.com Nam
    by Anonymous on Friday September 09 2005, @03:46AM (#16201)
    Gag Order Issued to Postel Workers Labor Union Thugs

    http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/ msg11336.html

    "Non-operational topics, which may be important but should be discussed elsewhere, include civil rights in China, charity fundraising, and Google's hiring practices (unless there end up being so many network operators working for Google that there's nobody left to operate the rest of the Internet...)."
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    Re:Google Buys ICANN - Who Owns the GOOGLE.com Nam
    by Anonymous on Friday September 09 2005, @03:52AM (#16202)
    "This ought to play well with any company whose stock price is dependent on a well-functioning Internet." - Vinton Cerf

    [Note: Martha Stewart is an amateur compared to Cerf]

    Google is a House of Cards, the Stock Price is an inflated fantasy. Cerf is one of the masters of
    creating a house of cards and continuing to tell
    the big lie to keep the house standing.

    It is all about Stock Price (as opposed to value)
    and the manipulation of that price.

    "This ought to play well with any company whose stock price is dependent on a well-functioning Internet." - Vinton Cerf

    http://www.cookreport.com/icannoverall.sht ml
    As May 99 turned to June, on the 7th Mike Roberts wrote to Mike Nelson, Roger Cochetti and Vint Cerf, that ICANN was in danger of going broke. Vint responded to the message:

    "Folks, I have talked with John Sidgmore. We will try to get $500K at least "backup" in case nothing else in the way of fundraising works. Mike Nelson, I have copied John Patrick and Irving Wladawsky-Berger [Editor: an IBM e-commerce executive. See section below on Chris Caine and Berger] on this message, as well as John Sidgmore. If IBM and MCI Worldcom can come up with $1M in "bridge" funding, to be paid back at a later time under reasonable terms that will not harm ICANN, then perhaps we can begin a new fundraising campaign knowing that we have the ability to back up the campaign with a rescue effort in the short term. It will be easier for John Sidgmore to make the case to the MCI WorldCom management if IBM is willing to go into this with us and split the $1M cost. Is it possible?"

    "I would then launch a campaign with GIP, ITAA, Internet Society, and other interested groups on the basis that ICANN must succeed or Internet will be in jeopardy. This ought to play well with any company whose stock price is dependent on a well-functioning Internet." "Thoughts?"

    The next day IBM’s and the GIP’s John Patrick writes: "ICANN is trying to get the policy, technical and financial aspects of the Internet moved successfully from U.S. government to the international private sector. Everyone thinks this is a good idea. In fact, I would say that the future of the Internet is dependent on the execution of the plan." And on June 13th to venture capitalists Patrick comes on with great urgency: "Not sound alarmist, but if ICANN fails e-business/e-anything is in jeopardy. This means your future investments and your past ones."
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    Don't Worry About Conflicts of Interest
    by Anonymous on Friday September 09 2005, @02:23PM (#16208)
    Don't Worry About Conflicts of Interest

    Attorneys that watch ICANN have already pulled
    their cars over on the shoulder of some
    backroads in Arkansas and had a court hearing
    where they ruled there are no potential
    conflicts. They pounded the hood of the car
    with the gavel and made it official. There is
    a mark spray painted on a tree to also document
    the event. Photos were taken and sent to an
    ex-attorney in Florida and he declared consensus.

    Don't Worry About Conflicts of Interest
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