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    .XXX is Not Going Away it is Growing With DOC Help
    by Anonymous on Monday August 22 2005, @01:28PM (#16037)
    .XXX is Not Going Away it is Growing With DOC Help

    Do you see the DOC helping to promote .JOBS or
    .KIDS or .INC or .ONLINE ? Of course not. The
    DOC has decided to HELP promote .XXX.

    Clear market research shows that .ONLINE and .INC
    are two of the most desired TLDs. Do you think
    the U.S. Government helps to promote those ?

    Of course not, AOL is does not want .ONLINE to
    expand and .INC would impact Verisign and now
    Neustar. The U.S. Government's DOC protects
    their cash-cows.

    The U.S. Government is now HELPING to expand
    .XXX. Many agencies are joining the cause.
    As you point out, they already have a vested
    interest via the PTO. They will protect that
    and control the .XXX name-space for their
    benefit. Control is the operative word.

    ICANN is just the DOC's puppet. They are laughing
    all the way to the bank. They can now do even
    less and the U.S. DOC will pick up more of the
    load. ICANN Staff and funding will of course
    increase and that will be laundered to the right
    people and off-shore accounts. You can not
    expect ICANN to tell you what is really going on,
    or for that matter, the U.S. DOC. You will find
    out long after it matters.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    USG DOC is ICANN's Scape-Goat to Avoid .XXX
    by Anonymous on Monday August 22 2005, @02:08PM (#16038)
    USG DOC is ICANN's Scape-Goat to Avoid .XXX

    ICANN has discovered that software and marketing
    plans are well on their way to convince American
    parents to drop the VIXXXIE root when .XXX is
    added.

    ICANN does not want anyone to switch to any other
    method for locating TLDs. The ISOC and RIRs have
    worked long and hard strong-arming the ISPs to
    use their view of the root zone.

    .XXX may give someone a compelling reason to
    consider and alternative. ICANN (IANA) can not
    tolerate any ideas, views, concepts, content,
    etc. that they do not approve. It is a control
    thing. It is also of course a market monopoly
    thing with ICANN now running .NET and their
    partner Verisign quite happy with .COM and
    Vinton Cerf's ISOC milking .ORG.

    In searching for some way to avoid .XXX or some
    way to derail it or delay it, the U.S. Department
    of Commerce became the sucker. ICANN is headed
    by people who are masters at living off of and
    using the U.S. Government as a pawn. ICANN can
    point their finger at the U.S.G as the reason
    why ICANN needs to make the root-zone even more
    restrictive.

    USG DOC is ICANN's Scape-Goat to Avoid .XXX
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    "let the Family Research Council know"
    by Anonymous on Monday August 22 2005, @07:49PM (#16039)
    "let the Family Research Council know"

    You can bet that the Internet Society is all over
    the Family Research Council educating them about
    the situation. For $50,000 the Family Research
    Council could probably become one of the gold card
    members of the Internet Society.

    Beyond the ISOC, you can bet that Vinton Cerf
    will be **helping** to get the Family Research
    Council connected. His Worldcom or MCI account
    reps will be sent in to sell high-priced
    connections to all of the Family Research Council
    offices, homes, etc.

    ICANN will then of course be called on to
    "network" the Family Research Council with all
    of the **right people**. There will be .LA
    parties and A-list invitees and then some
    special events in the .DC area. The Family
    Research Council will become part of "the Family".

    Above it all, you will have Esther and the
    other insiders making sure that "the Family"
    is included on all of the IPOs before the
    markets open. There will be a lot of "education"
    needed to make sure "the Family" hears about
    the big bad government as being bad. Yeah,
    those bad people over at the DOC who are trying
    to control the .NET. The Family will be spinning
    in circles trying to find out which end is up.

    The Family will eventually forget all about the
    .XXX TLD and what brought them into the ISOC
    fold. They will be singing about The Good Old
    IANA Religion before they can say Jon Postel.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Keep in Mind that ICANN Can Kill TLDs With LOVE
    by Anonymous on Monday August 22 2005, @08:19PM (#16040)
    Keep in Mind that ICANN Can Kill TLDs With LOVE

    .WEB is a good example. Cerf killed .WEB by
    loving it to death. He gave .WEB that big Vinton
    Cerf bear-hug and hand-shake, squeezed the life
    out of it and dropped it in the trash can on his
    way out the door.

    What is amazing is that people were so gullible
    they claimed that Vinton Cerf was on their side.
    They claimed Vinton Cerf saved .WEB from extinction.
    They were fools.

    .XXX supporters are not fools. They are running
    for the hills. They see the ICANN Family coming
    to LOVE .XXX to death.

    Even if .XXX were to make it into the ICANN
    [USG] root, the new ICANN approach is to approve
    TLDs and then not allow any interesting names
    to be registered. Special names are viewed as
    belonging to "the community" and they are
    reserved for future use. Some wiggle words are
    added about the names having a high potential
    financial value and there is no way to decide
    how to determine ownership.

    In enters the U.S. PTO and the DOC. Register
    your .XXX name at New.Net. Apply for a trademark
    and also make sure you cover all of the similar
    names in .COM. Your name may not make it into
    the ICANN .XXX zone, but no one else will be
    able to register there because ICANN will guard
    the door.

    The free and open marketplace [you know, that
    one the ISOC and ICANN claim they like] eventually
    evolves and people migrate to the .XXX servers
    that have the names. Some people of course
    migrate AWAY from those servers. ICANN does not
    want them to have a choice. ICANN wants to
    make that decision for them.

    There is an assumption that "the Internet is
    for everyone" and everyone should be forced to
    see everything on the Internet. It is a
    soviet-like approach where there is ONE channel
    and everyone watches that ONE channel and will
    enjoy that ONE channel. There is no choice.
    It is the IANA way or the highway.

    Many people have obviously taken the highway.
    Do you see any real comments in ICANN forums ?
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    sex.xxx is owned by:
    by Anonymous on Monday August 22 2005, @08:36PM (#16041)
    sex.xxx  is owned by:

    New.net Domadmin
    reserved@new.net

    130 W. Union Street

    Pasadena, CA 91103
    US
    +1.6265352700

    Record created on 2001-01-01T08:00:00Z
    Record expires on 2031-01-01T08:00:00Z

    ICANN Registrars standing by to register your .XXX names
    http://www.dollardomainname.com/
    http://ww w.easyspace.com/domains/newdotnet.html
    http://www 2.bulkregister.com/altDomains.php
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    From The Postel Workers Labor Union
    by Anonymous on Monday August 22 2005, @08:42PM (#16042)
    From The Postel Workers Labor Union
    the closed ISOC.ICANN clique continues their game

    http://www.isoc.org/isoc/media/releases/05 0816pr.shtml
    JUN MURAI RECOGNIZED WITH THE INTERNET SOCIETY'S POSTEL AWARD
    2005 award goes to pioneer behind development of the Internet in the Asia Pacific region

    "a former member of the Board of Trustees of the Internet Society and a former member of ICANN's Board of Directors."

    Looks Like Being a "Former Member" is Honored
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    ICANN and ISOC Love the USG When They Run the Show
    by Anonymous on Monday August 22 2005, @09:00PM (#16043)
    ICANN and ISOC Love the USG When They Run the Show
    if ICANN kisses the USG good-bye everyone can
    start with a clean slate and build a better .NET

    https://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=AL05H04&trac k=0

    "We've met with key people at the Commerce Department, which has jurisdiction over ICANN, and we asked you to send letters and emails to President Bush and ICANN, telling them to stop the .XXX domain. And thanks to your letters and emails, the Bush Administration announced this week that "due to unprecedented opposition" (that means from YOU), it asked ICANN to halt the process for one month and reconsider. We now have until September 15 to pressure ICANN to kill the .xxx Domain."
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Root Server Operators Planning to Add .XXX Anyway
    by Anonymous on Monday August 22 2005, @09:09PM (#16044)
    Root Server Operators Planning to Add .XXX Anyway

    With or without ICANN, the Root Server operators
    are planning to add .XXX to make it more widely
    used. About 180,000,000 people, mostly in the .US
    currently can access it.

    Now that there are thousands of root servers all
    around the world, it is just a matter of time
    before more and more add .XXX. As it is entered,
    it spreads like a virus.

    http://www.isoc.org/isoc/conferences/wsi s/wgigcomments.shtml

    ROOT SERVERS – STABILITY THOURGH DIVERSITY8

    A clear benefit of the WGIG process has been the opportunity to share how things such as the root name server system operates. For instance, it now seems to be widely understood that the root name server operators do not determine the content of the root zone file, that no Internet traffic passes through the root name servers at all, and that these servers do not route Internet traffic. Furthermore, many root server operators now provide service from multiple locations using a method called "anycast" which increases the availability and resilience of the DNS system while providing increased benefits “in-region”. In fact, as of December 2004, there were root name servers being operated at more than 80 locations in 34 countries, most of them outside the United States of America. And, this number has grown considerably over the last 6 months and will continue to do so.

    This diversity and the distributed authority has been a critical element of the reliability of the root name service. We are happy to see that a consensus seems to be emerging that today’s arrangements have significant value to the Internet, as it is far from clear what value would be added by creating a new authority to oversee the root name server system. In fact, there is a real risk that this could weaken the robustness of the current operations by creating a single point of failure, or a potential target for capture and abuse. The costs of such an exercise, both in direct terms and in terms of the time and energies of those who would need to participate, do not appear to be sufficiently justified.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    .TX and .FL Set to Roll Out New State TLDs
    by Anonymous on Monday August 22 2005, @09:39PM (#16045)
    .TX and .FL Set to Roll Out New State TLDs

    Looks like George W. and Jeb are taking care of
    their States.

    USPTO Announces Seminars for Texas and Florida Businesses on Protecting Their Intellectual Property from Theft

    Austin, TX – September 12-13 …
    Miami, FL – September 26-27 …
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Whois SEX.XXX Grant Media, LLC
    by Anonymous on Monday August 22 2005, @09:43PM (#16046)
    http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=registra tion&entry=2954312&action=Request+Status

    Ma rk (words only): SEX.XXX

    Standard Character claim: No

    Current Status: Registered.

    Date of Status: 2005-05-24

    Filing Date: 2003-09-29

    1.  Grant Media, LLC

    Address:
    Grant Media, LLC
    2544 3rd Street
    San Francisco, CA 94107
    United States
    Legal Entity Type: Ltd Liab Co
    State or Country Where Organized: California

    International Class: 035
    Providing on-line directory information services also featuring hyperlinks to other web sites
    First Use Date: 2003-09-23
    First Use in Commerce Date: 2003-09-23

    Basis: 1(a)

    International Class: 042
    Computer services, namely, providing software interfaces available over a network in order to create a personalized on-line information services; extraction and retrieval of information and data mining by means of internet, creating indexes of information, indexes of web sites and indexes of other information sources in connection with internet, providing information from searchable indexes and databases of information, including text, electronic documents, databases, graphics and audio visual information via the internet; electronic navigation services, namely, providing search engine services for obtaining data via a global computer network
    First Use Date: 2003-09-23
    First Use in Commerce Date: 2003-09-23
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    WIPO Also Gets Their Piece of the SEX.XXX Action
    by Anonymous on Monday August 22 2005, @09:47PM (#16047)
    MADRID PROTOCOL FORMS
    bullet Application for International Registration

    Use this form to submit an international application for registration. If the international application meets the requirements of 37 C.F.R. §7.11(a), the USPTO will certify and forward the international application to the International Bureau of the World Intellectual Property Organization (IB). An international application submitted through the USPTO must be based on either (1) an application(s) that is currently pending in the USPTO; or (2) a registration(s) that the USPTO already issued. The international application may be based on more than one basic application or registration only if the mark and the owner are the same for all of the basic applications and/or registrations.

    NOTE: All fees associated with the international application, i.e., the U.S. certification fee and the international application fees, must be paid at the time of submission. The U.S. certification fee is $100.00, per class, if the international application is based on one single basic application or registration; or $150.00 per class, if the international application is based on more than one basic application or registration. A schedule of international fees and fee calculator are available online at http://www.wipo.int/madrid/en/. The international application fees may be paid through the USPTO in U.S. dollars or directly to the IB in Swiss francs.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    If the USG Blocks .XXX How Do They Send eMails ?
    by Anonymous on Monday August 22 2005, @09:52PM (#16048)
    If the USG Blocks .XXX How Do They Send eMails ?

    Does a person or a company NOT EXIST if the
    U.S. Government blocks their TLD ?

    http://www.uspto.gov/teas/eTEASimportantnotic e.htm#EmailDel

    Ensuring delivery of emails sent from the USPTO. To help ensure the receipt of emails sent from a USPTO address, please note that the USPTO cannot deliver an email successfully if
    1) the destination email address is not valid. Please check that the entered email address does not contain any typographical errors.
    2) the destination email address is relaying the email to a different address.
    3) the USPTO cannot perform a "reverse DNS look-up" of the destination email address.
    4) the destination email server is blocking any email address that ends with "uspto.gov" as spam. NOTE: Email originating from "uspto.gov" may include attachments, so email from the USPTO address with attachments should not be blocked.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Can someone else comment?
    by Anonymous on Tuesday August 23 2005, @04:18AM (#16050)
    Other than the lone poster who spends his time cribbing conspiracy theories about ICANN/ISOC/Bernie Ebbers/etc etc, is there anyone else with a reasonable comment, or has everyone reasonable been forced away from ICANNWatch by the lone poster?
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Trademarks are Different Than Top-Level Domains
    by hofjes on Tuesday August 23 2005, @06:08AM (#16053)
    User #60 Info
    The difference between the trademark registration and the TLD is basic policy.

    A trademark identifies the source or quality of goods or services, and is used to distinguish one’s products from another’s products. Trademark rights are established by mere use in commerce. If the trademark registrant brands its services as SEX.XXX, then the registrant is using a trademark and should be entitled to register it. The USPTO should not (and the First Amendment does not allow it to) discriminate based upon the apparent content of the product associated with the trademark. Simple as that.

    Internet TLDs, on the other hand, are governed by a different standard. Each TLD must be rolled out with public policy in mind. If there is a threat to the stability of the Internet, then the TLD should not be added to the root. Internet stakeholders theoretically should be allowed to voice opposition before ICANN signs a contract.

    Some have made the argument that ISPs will immediately filter out .XXX. Consequently, (i) traffic via the new domain will not move; and (ii) the TLD will be ineffective as routing identity. In other words, stability will be effected because traffic will be squelched. .XXX is not dead. Rather, the DoC and the GAC have asked ICANN to consider the matter further. Such consideration is consistent with ICANN’s mandate.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    well-represented by the people who make it work.
    by Anonymous on Tuesday August 23 2005, @09:33PM (#16058)
    "Always interesting, relevant and ahead of the curve, the Aspen Summit has grown up with the Internet," says Foundation President Raymond L. Gifford. "And each has had an impact on the other. This year we will focus on the future of the Internet, examining the policy, legal and economic implications of this constantly changing phenomenon. Each Internet layer will be well-represented by the people who make it work."

    Remarks

        * Honorable Haley Barbour, Governor, State of Mississippi

    # Chris Israel, Coordinator of Intellectual Property Enforcement, U.S. Department of Commerce

    # Ambassador David A. Gross, U.S. Coordinator for International Communications & Information Policy, U.S. Department of State

    Reform of Telecommunications Law

        * Jonathan Askin, Pulver.com
        * Roger Cochetti, CompTIA

    Michael Gallagher, Commerce Department Assistant Secretary and Director of the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA)

    Honorable Marsha Blackburn, Representative, U.S. House of Representatives (R-TN)

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    George Carlin's Seven Dirty Words - .XXX Sponsors
    by Anonymous on Wednesday August 24 2005, @04:36AM (#16060)
    1

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    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Message From George - No Not "W"
    by Anonymous on Wednesday August 24 2005, @04:59AM (#16062)
    http://www.georgecarlin.com

    Message From George

    I'M OUT NOW AND WORKIN' ON MY PROGRAM. ALL IS WELL. BACK ON THE ROAD IN MARCH. - GC
    _______

    press release

    (older message about site follows):
    Well, I finally found out that trying to keep a website up to date while still maintaining a full career schedule is a real pain in the ass. So here I am again, after about a six-month absence. This website stuff is a real bother, because it lacks instant gratification. There's no psychic payoff. All the other things I do give me a charge and a lift. This seems more like doing homework. Fuck that shit!

    Therefore, I've decided to do a minimal amount of work on the website. I'll check in from time to time...just like you. But that's it.

    So! I just made some new timeline entries, including news about last year's HBO show, the latest CD, the book, the Grammy Awards, my movie plans and my Broadway plans. Something there might interest you.

    Naturally, I'm still doing my short theater-concert tours, and I still do 12 weeks a year at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Details on those things are always available on the "Schedule" part of this web page.

    Laugh.com (the comedy website I have a small interest in) continues to grow and grow. It's quite a flourishing record company now, in addition to being a great comedy website. We have 22 CD's in stores right now from coast to coast, and hundreds more coming. We've made deals with the three big records companies (Sony, Universal and BMG) and have the rights to sell and market many of their best titles from over the years.

    The first 20 (from Universal) will be pressed in a couple of months, including CD's by Jackie Mason, Bill Cosby, Robin Williams, Whoopi Goldberg, Lily Tomlin, Jonathan Winters, Mort Sahl, Rich Little, Phyllis Diller, Shelly Berman, Buddy Hackett, The Smothers Brothers...etc etc etc. Check the site. Many other CD's, not yet in stores, are available at the site.

    We also have Firesign Theater. Yay! Fuckin' yay!

    Okay, that's it. I gotta go watch my dog take a shit.
    Thanks for visiting. Stay cool, and don't believe anything the Bush administration tells you. In fact, play it safe: don't believe anything anybody tells you.

    George Carlin. 
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    the instant there is even ONE user of a TLD
    by Anonymous on Wednesday August 24 2005, @07:34AM (#16065)
    From: Dave Crocker <dcrocker at brandenburg.com>
    Subject: Re: The cartel begins to crumble?
    Cc: ietf at ietf.org
    Source-Info:  From (or Sender) name not authenticated.

    >If a TLD is desirable, it will have NEW customers.

        I'd guess that any scheme that is adopted needs to handle the
    TRANSITION very, very carefully.  Disruption of service is a fundamentally
    Bad Thing, as I'd predict you will agree.

        So, yes.  If no one is using a TLD, who cares.  But the instant
    there is even ONE user of a TLD, what is our "social" responsibility to
    ensure continuity of service (i.e., permanence of domain names)?  We can
    certainly be cavalier and leave the whole matter to freemarket commercial
    forces, but we can also choose to require continuity.  Personally, I would
    wish for the latter, if feasible.

    d/

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    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    "Think Globally and Act Locally"
    by Anonymous on Wednesday August 24 2005, @07:42AM (#16066)
    1

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    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    September 11, 2005 - Kernel Source Fork Day
    by Anonymous on Wednesday August 24 2005, @07:55AM (#16067)
    September 11, 2005 - Kernel Source Fork Day

    People will have two paths to take, one is the
    code-bloat path (aka IPv6) the other is the
    minimalist path, which needs no new name, or
    any name, less is more. Code will be REMOVED
    from the Kernel to make it MORE stable and
    MORE secure.

    “Note that nobody reads every post in linux-kernel. In fact, nobody who expects to have time left over to actually do any real kernel work will read even half. Except Alan Cox, but he's actually not human, but about a thousand gnomes working in under-ground caves in Swansea. None of the individual gnomes read all the postings either, they just work together really well.” - Linus Torvalds
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    the “expert” state of mind - From Henry Ford Sr.
    by Anonymous on Wednesday August 24 2005, @08:00AM (#16068)
    “None of our men are “experts.” We have most unfortunately found it necessary to get rid of a man as soon as he thinks himself an expert  — because no one ever considers himself expert if he really knows his job. A man who knows a job sees so much more to be done than he has done, that he is always pressing forward and never gives up an instant of thought to how good and how efficient he is. Thinking always ahead, thinking always of trying to do more, brings a state of mind in which nothing is impossible. The moment one gets into the “expert” state of mind a great number of things become impossible.”  — From Henry Ford Sr., “My Life and Work,”
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    TuCows Already Announced Application for .WEB
    by Anonymous on Wednesday August 24 2005, @09:39AM (#16071)
    TuCows Already Announced at the ICANN Meeting
    that they will be making application for .WEB

    That will give .WEB a boost, because of OpenSRS.

    TuCows is being bought out in a leveraged buy-out.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    ISOC.PIR to Demand PUSSY.ORG be Used for .XXX
    by Anonymous on Wednesday August 24 2005, @12:10PM (#16072)
    ISOC.PIR to Demand PUSSY.ORG be Used for .XXX

    In order to create artificial scarcity under .XXX
    and in order for the ISOC to get their cut of
    the .XXX bizness, there is a plan to use the
    PUSSY.ORG structure under .XXX

    That would limit the number of names under .XXX
    similar to the way CO.UK and NET.UK are structured.

    The difference is that the PUSSY.ORG structure
    would be used. That would create 100+ Sub-TLDs
    that the ISOC and PIR would help to manage
    (sponsor).

    PUSSY.ORG would still be the ISOC's flag-ship

    Your .ORG taxes at work
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Unsolicited Sexually Oriented Advertising
    by Anonymous on Wednesday August 24 2005, @04:35PM (#16076)
    http://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/smutmail.htm

    Someday you may open your mailbox and find a lingerie or sex toy catalog that leaves very little to the imagination, or an advertisement from an X-rated video mail order house. You may feel angered that someone would violate your privacy by mailing such an ad--especially if you have young children at home.

    If you wish the Postal Service to place your name and/or those of your minor children on a list of persons who do not want to receive unsolicited sexually oriented advertisements through the mail, just complete Form 1500, Application for Listing and/or Prohibitory Order. The form is available at your local post office. After completing the form, you may submit it to any postal manager or mail it directly to:

    PROHIBITORY ORDER PROCESSING CENTER
    US POSTAL SERVICE
    PO BOX 3744
    MEMPHIS TN 38173-0744

    When your application has been processed, you will be notified of the effective date of your protected status. You will also be advised at that time how to report any violation. Thirty days after your protection begins, any mailer who sends you sexually oriented advertisements may be subject to civil and criminal sanctions. Your name will remain on the list for five years, unless you ask to have it removed. At the end of five years, you must file again to have your name reinstated.
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    Where Will ICANN Spend All the .XXX Cash ???
    by Anonymous on Wednesday August 24 2005, @04:48PM (#16077)
    Where Will ICANN Spend All the .XXX Cash ???

    ICANN is headed to Vancouver Canada to consider
    a new office location.

    http://www.niho.com/Press/Press17.asp

    There are at least three buyers anxious to take the famed Douglas Lake Ranch off the hands of bankrupt American telecom giant WorldCom Inc. now that the company appears to have seized control of the property from Bernard Ebbers, said Vancouver real-estate consultant Rudy Nielsen.

    All Nielsen would say about the potential purchasers he represents are that two are Canadian, the third is from "offshore" and that all of them are interested in operating the 66,371-hectare property as one big ranch and have no intention of parceling off any land for further sale.

    He doubts, however, that the ranch will fetch anywhere near the almost $100 million Ebbers reportedly paid for it in 1998. Nielsen did a detailed appraisal of the property at the time that valued it between $65 million and $85 million.

    "You've got to have some return on it. There's not many guys like Ebbers out there that'll pay that trophy fee [with] unlimited money," Nielsen said.
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    Registration is now open for Vancouver.Canada
    by Anonymous on Wednesday August 24 2005, @05:13PM (#16079)
    Registration is now open for the November 30 - December 4 2005 meeting in Vancouver, Canada

    http://register.icann.org/cgi/attendees. cgi

    A record crowd is expected to ensure Canada gets their share of the .XXX market importing to the .USA.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    ARIN XXX Public Policy Meeting in Los Angeles, Ca
    by Anonymous on Wednesday August 24 2005, @05:20PM (#16080)
    Posted: August 23, 2005
    The ARIN XXX Public Policy Meeting will take place October 26-27, 2005 in Los Angeles, California. New policy proposals must be submitted by 23:59 EST, August 27, 2005, in order to be considered by the ARIN Advisory Council for possible inclusion on the ARIN XXX agenda. This is in accordance with ARIN's Internet Resource Policy Evaluation Process, which indicates that proposed policies must be submitted at least 60 days prior to the meeting.
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    Register the .KIDS and Expose Them MORE ????
    by Anonymous on Thursday August 25 2005, @06:23AM (#16086)
    http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/computersecurity /2005-08-21-email-children_x.htm

    "Under the new laws, parents would register their kids' e-mail addresses and birth dates with the state. The registries also include instant-messaging addresses, cell phone and pager numbers."

    "Children could inadvertently be endangered by the laws. Opsahl and others say many spammers will bombard both states with e-mail and, based on automated e-mail warnings, discover valid addresses. Aftab wonders if spammers and pedophiles will hack into large databases of children."
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Hey ICANNwatch
    by Anonymous on Thursday August 25 2005, @08:36AM (#16091)
    Does ICANNwatch have any plans to deal with the continuing comment-spam spewing forth from the Anonymous poster? It's all day every day, same conspiracy theory b-s.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Are People Watching the Changes in the .XXX Deal ?
    by Anonymous on Thursday August 25 2005, @08:57AM (#16092)
    Are People Watching the Changes in the .XXX Deal ?

    ICM Registry is changing some of the strategy
    with ICANN rubber-stamping everything.

    You really have to admire the Australians,
    coming to the .USA and attempting to control
    the .NET.

    Americans will respond, with directives from
    their elected leaders, clergy, parents, etc.
    Australians can not win this battle on US soil
    even with a bunch of greedy Canadians cheering
    them on.

    Note: The [Deport Twomey] signs for the pickets
    at the ICANN meeting in Canada may back-fire.
    Canada would likely send him to the .USA.
    Pickets for the LA ICANN ARIN and NANOG meeting
    are preparing signs.
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    Intel and Cisco Arrive Just in Time to Filter .XXX
    by Anonymous on Thursday August 25 2005, @06:48PM (#16093)
    Intel and Cisco Arrive Just in Time to Filter .XXX

    Keywords: Active Management Admission Control

    ICANN and the U.S. Government are really helping
    to raise the awareness of the need for more
    protection to provide users with "a better
    Internet experience" [at a premium price].

    http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,18 51457,00.asp

    Chip maker Intel Corp. and networking equipment maker Cisco Systems Inc. are joining forces to combine Intel's chip-based Active Management Technology with Cisco's Network Admission Control architecture.

    The two companies used the Intel Developer Forum in San Francisco on Tuesday to announce the new arrangement. The deal will allow Cisco NAC devices to interoperate with systems that use Intel's AMT technology, so companies can defend against security threats. Eventually the partnership could provide a hardware secured area for computers to store sensitive network admission credentials
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    "don't want someone muscling in on their racket"?
    by Anonymous on Thursday August 25 2005, @08:09PM (#16094)
    "don't want someone muscling in on their racket"?

    WTO ruling that the US should stop blocking US gamblers and banks from using services based in Antigua and Barbuda

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/22/wto_gambli ng_update/

    "Washington has been consistently frustrated in its efforts to prevent its gamblers frittering away their hard-earned cash in virtual casinos hosted in the Caribbean. The WTO has effectively decided Washington is simply protecting its own, rather powerful, gambling industry."
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    ICANN Ignores .History and .TV and .MUSEUM
    by Anonymous on Friday August 26 2005, @02:56AM (#16095)
    ICANN Ignores .History and .TV and .MUSEUM

    http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/F/htm lF/fairnessdoct/fairnessdoct.htm

    FAIRNESS DOCTRINE

    U.S. Broadcasting Policy

    The policy of the United States Federal Communications Commission that became known as the "Fairness Doctrine" is an attempt to ensure that all coverage of controversial issues by a broadcast station be balanced and fair. The FCC took the view, in 1949, that station licensees were "public trustees," [sound familiar?] and as such had an obligation to afford reasonable opportunity for discussion of contrasting points of view on controversial issues of public importance. The Commission later held that stations were also obligated to actively seek out issues of importance to their community and air programming that addressed those issues. With the deregulation sweep of the Reagan Administration during the 1980s, the Commission dissolved the fairness doctrine.

    By the 1980s, many things had changed. The "scarcity" argument [artificial scarcity?] which dictated the "public trustee" philosophy of the Commission, was disappearing with the abundant number of channels available on cable TV. Without scarcity, or with many other voices in the marketplace of ideas, there were perhaps fewer compelling reasons to keep the fairness doctrine. This was also the era of deregulation when the FCC took on a different attitude about its many rules, seen as an unnecessary burden by most stations. The new Chairman of the FCC, Mark Fowler, appointed by President Reagan, publicly avowed to kill the fairness doctrine.

    [ICANN ISOC and ARIN are living in 1949 with senile leaders like Cerf, Crocker, Klensin, Bradner, Curran, Carpenter, Baker, and Murai
    surrounded by the Postel Workers Labor Union
    of thugs and groupies ready to defend their
    ivory tower of fairness which no one trusts.]
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    The ICANN Root Servers are Like the Berlin Wall
    by Anonymous on Friday August 26 2005, @03:09AM (#16096)
    The ICANN Root Servers are Like the Berlin Wall

    they will come down

    and for most people in the world, they do not even see them or the harm they have done.

    One has to wonder if parts from the ICANN root
    servers will start to be sold to be placed in
    urinals in men's restrooms, as is now done with
    pieces of the Berlin Wall.
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    FCC repealed it in the Syracuse Peace Conference
    by Anonymous on Friday August 26 2005, @03:16AM (#16097)
    The Fairness Doctrine was a policy enforced in the United States by the Federal Communications Commission that required broadcast licensees to present controversial issues of public importance, and to present such issues in a fair and balanced manner.

    In Red Lion Broadcasting Co. v. FCC (1969), the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the Fairness Doctrine, under challenges that it violated the First Amendment.

    The Doctrine was enforced throughout the entire history of the FCC (and its precursor, the Federal Radio Commission) until 1987, when the FCC repealed it in the Syracuse Peace Conference decision in 1987. The Republican-controlled commission claimed the doctrine had grown to inhibit rather than enhance debate and suggested that, due to the many media voices in the marketplace at the time, the doctrine was probably unconstitutional. Others, noting the subsequent rise of right-wing radio hosts like Rush Limbaugh, suggest the repeal was more likely motivated by a desire to get partisans on the air.

    The two corollary rules, the personal attack rule and the political editorial rule, remained in practice even after the repeal of the fairness doctrine. The personal attack rule is pertinent whenever a person or small group is subject to a character attack during a broadcast. Stations must notify such persons or groups within a week of the attack, send them transcripts of what was said, and offer the opportunity to respond on the air. The political editorial rule applies when a station broadcasts editorials endorsing or opposing candidates for public office, and stipulates that the candidates not endorsed be notified and allowed a reasonable opportunity to respond.

    The Court of Appeals for Washington D.C. ordered the FCC to justify these corollary rules in light of the decision to axe the fairness doctrine. The commission did not do so promptly, and in 2000 it ordered their repeal. The collapse of the fairness doctrine and its corollary rules had significant political effects. One longtime Pennsylvania political leader, State Rep. Mark B. Cohen of Philadelphia, said "The fairness doctrine helped reinforce a politics of moderation and inclusiveness. The collapse of the fairness doctrine and its corollary rules blurred the distinctions between news, political advocacy, and political advertising, and helped lead to the polarizing cacophony of strident talking heads that we have today."
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    US Commerce Dept's intervention raises issues
    by Anonymous on Friday August 26 2005, @05:55AM (#16100)
    https://ssl.cpsr.org/pipermail/governance/2005-Aug ust/003455.html

    On August 11, the U.S. Commerce Department
    responded to a campaign by conservative relligious
    groups favoring online content controls by telling
    ICANN to reconsider its agreement to create a new
    .xxx top-level domain for sexual content.
    ICANN complied by delaying its process.

    The US Commerce Dept's intervention raises
    profound issues about how the Internet is governed.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    FACT: The U.S. Government operates several servers that it owns. Via those servers, they publish
    THEIR view of the root-zone. They are free to do
    that and people are free to listen or not. More
    and more, people do not listen, even Americans.

    ICANN wants it both ways, they want to be funded
    and endorsed by the U.S. Government, yet, want
    to thumb their noses at their funders and
    endorsers, and leverage that in international
    forums where there are many that want to destroy
    Americans. It is a dishonest academic game.

    The so-called "intervention" by the U.S. Department
    of Commerce illustrates that freedom of speech
    still exists. That is good, not bad. ICANN and
    the ISOC want to take away that freedom and
    replace it with their soviet-like system based
    on academic cronyism. That is not a system based
    on free will and free speech. That is a system
    where the academics and legal sharks determine
    who "the right people" are and those are the
    people who get to speak and dominate all forums.
    They are the ones funded to travel to the
    expensive face-to-face meetings where "the
    Party Line" is the only line, besides the line
    at the free buffet.

    Education is a key and the academics appear to
    be concerned that "religious groups" are becoming
    better educated and that the U.S. Government
    is also beginning to see the light. Academics
    want to dismiss consumers and prevent them from
    becoming educated (very ironic considering the
    business academics claim to be in). Academics
    want to step in to create MORE layers of
    regulatory regimes, such as ICANN, to allow
    them to dictate consumer's choices.

    The U.S. Government is one consumer and a large
    consumer but not the only consumer. If the
    U.S. Government decides one direction, some
    consumers might follow and some might go in the
    opposite direction just to be different. Academics
    only want one direction, their direction. That
    leads to a least-common-denominator world which
    discourages innovation, creativity, debate, etc.
    As people now see, the only people at ICANN are
    now those that nod the Party Line and walk like
    zombies from one venue to the next.
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    Ironic - China Technology to Free Americans from ?
    by Anonymous on Friday August 26 2005, @07:29AM (#16102)
    Ironic - China Technology to Free Americans from ?

    Americans think they are a free society. While
    they think that, the U.S. Government's DOD is
    attempting to force IPv6 into China, via Vinton
    Cerf's ISOC and IETF.

    The Chinese have a different plan. They have technology to help protect Americans from
    the U.S. DOD.

    The U.S. DOD of course has to attempt to
    counter the spin by claiming China is hacking
    their networks[1]. Americans will be expected to
    swallow IPv6 as the solution to fix all problems.
    The Chinese are banking on the fact that
    Americans are not stoopid and value their freedom.

    [1]
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- dyn/content/article/2005/08/24/AR2005082402318.htm l
    http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/sec urity/hacking/story/0,10801,104150,00.html
    http:/ /www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=12100002Q DV4
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9071131/
    http:// news.com.com/U.S.+defense+networks+attacked+via+Ch ina/2100-7349_3-5842897.html
    http://www.cnn.com/2 005/TECH/internet/08/25/hackers.china/index.html
    http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/new s/editorial/12475780.htm
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    The ISOC.IETF Double Standard Continues Sans ICANN
    by Anonymous on Friday August 26 2005, @09:08AM (#16103)
    The ISOC.IETF Double Standard Continues Sans ICANN

    When CISCO needed a TLD for $50 WIFI Routers
    they selected .LAN, ICANN was not involved or
    if they were, people kept it very quiet.

    When Apple needs a TLD, they pick .LOCAL from
    the tree and now point to how widely it is used.
    ICANN was not involved. The ISOC and IETF of
    course help to promote it.

    http://files.multicastdns.org/draft-cheshir e-dnsext-multicastdns.txt

    "Note also that the special treatment of names ending in ".local." has
       been implemented in Macintosh computers since the days of Mac OS 9,
       and continues today in Mac OS X. There are also implementations for
       Linux and other platforms [dotlocal]. Operators setting up private
       internal networks ("intranets") are advised that their lives may be
       easier if they avoid using the suffix ".local." in names in their
       private internal DNS server. Alternative possibilities include:

          .intranet
          .internal
          .private
          .corp
          .home

    xxxyyyzzz

    The same thing happens with IP address space.
    The large companies take what they need and
    ICANN and IANA are not consulted or needed.
    RIRs are not paid by Apple, AT&T, HP or IBM
    for the massive allocations.

    It is one big double standard, or maybe one
    should call it two standards, one for the
    insiders and one for everyone else.

    It should not be surprising that this happens
    because developers and companies have to move
    forward to sell to the market. They would still
    be waiting to hear from Jon Postel and products
    would not be shipped to users.

    What is surprising is the number of creative
    ways the Internet Society and ICANN insiders
    have in attempting to explain away the double
    standard. It would appear to be more honest to
    say, "Yep, it exists, we do not intend to
    change, we are corrupt and like it that way."
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    Sony Adding 2 Million More .XXX Users as You Sleep
    by Anonymous on Friday August 26 2005, @12:41PM (#16104)
    Sony Adding 2 Million More .XXX Users as You Sleep

    SONY PSP WIFI Web Browser and 2.0 Software Ready for Download
    http://www.us.playstation.com/PSP.aspx?i d=softwareupdate

    You can connect to the Internet to view Web pages using the Internet browser.
    Note that you must be in an Internet-accessible location to connect to the Internet.

    Sending and receiving images

    You can transfer images with another PSP™ system using ad hoc mode.

    Setting an image as wallpaper

    You can set the currently displayed image as wallpaper.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]


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