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    by Anonymous on Tuesday August 16 2005, @05:14AM (#15909)
    Very well said Milton. Thank you posting this argument and putting the attention squarely where it should be focused. ICANN needs to step up now. With governments trying to micromanage the Internet, we all lose.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    • Re:Bravo by Anonymous Tuesday August 16 2005, @07:09AM
    .XXX Meeting in .LA With Live Hollywood Porn Stars
    by Anonymous on Tuesday August 16 2005, @06:32AM (#15910)
    .XXX Meeting in .LA With Live Hollywood Porn Stars

    The fall 2005 NANOG meeting will be held October 23-25 in Los Angeles. Join us for our fourth joint meeting with ARIN, the American Registry for Internet Numbers. ARIN manages IP numbers for North America and several islands in the Caribbean and North Atlantic.

    NANOG will meet as usual from Sunday to Tuesday, and ARIN from Wednesday to Friday.

    Tutorials will begin on Sunday afternoon, Oct. 23, at 1:30 p.m. The General Session begins at 9:00 a.m. on Oct. 24, and ends at approximately 4:00 p.m. on Tuesday, Oct. 25. Registration begins in late August, and the fee is $350.

    Meeting Location:
    Hilton Los Angeles/Universal City
    555 Universal Hollywood Drive
    Universal City, California 91608-1001

    Phone: +1-818-506-2500
    Fax: +1-818-509-2058
    Group rate: $128
    Rate expires: October 8
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    More odd postings
    by Anonymous on Tuesday August 16 2005, @06:49AM (#15915)
    Whoever you are, you're spending way too much time spamming this website with unrelated comments. Everytime someone posts something about ICANN, you take it as an opportunity to post whacked out conspiracy theories. Please stop.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    .XXX is in the Root - Stuart Lynn Approved It
    by Anonymous on Tuesday August 16 2005, @10:25AM (#15918)
    .XXX is in the Root - Stuart Lynn Approved It

    at a secret meeting in Marina Del Rey

    Looking Behind at the Future of Networking
            M. Stuart Lynn

    CENIC 2004, our annual conference event, is set for March 15, 16 and 17 in Marina del Rey, California at the Ritz-Carlton Marina del Rey Hotel.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    by AmericaAtLarge on Tuesday August 16 2005, @11:31AM (#15919)
    User #4126 Info | http://americeatlarge.org/
    Great satire!

    I haven't been able to find much on this subject, what little I've found was on circleID, and ICANN doesn't seem to have any public comment other than the staement from GAC chair. I thought everything had already been approved.

    If this is true, I hate to say it, but 'I told you so!'

    You see, when I was younger I was taught about the 7-p's (proper prior planning prevents piss poor performance), and who says I never studied in college? When you forget about the P's, disaster strikes.

    This is exactly my point in recommending that slower and purposeful action is necessary when introducing new TLDs.

    What do y'all think?

    Randy Glass
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    • Re:.xxx by Anonymous Tuesday August 16 2005, @01:30PM
    • Re:.xxx by Anonymous Wednesday August 17 2005, @06:26AM
    The DOC Letter
    by Anonymous on Tuesday August 16 2005, @01:33PM (#15921)
    I take it you have all seen the DOC letter under Correspondence?
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    "6,000 letters and e-mails" - More Than ICANN Gets
    by Anonymous on Tuesday August 16 2005, @03:50PM (#15922)
    Recent News.com article: "Bush administration objects to .xxx domains" (By Declan McCullagh),


    The Bush administration is objecting to the creation of a .xxx domain,
    saying it has concerns about a virtual red-light district reserved
    exclusively for Internet pornography.

    Michael Gallagher, assistant secretary at the Commerce Department, has asked
    for a hold to be placed on the contract to run the new top-level domain
    until the .xxx suffix can receive further scrutiny. The domain was scheduled to receive final approval Tuesday.

    "The Department of Commerce has received nearly 6,000 letters and e-mails
    from individuals expressing concern about the impact of pornography on
    families and children," Gallagher said in a letter that was made public on

    It does not look like Hillary Clinton and Ira Magaziner's ICANN is getting strong support for their porn (pork) agenda. At a recent meeting,
    Hillary was all in favor of the .NY roll-out.
    All of the States are going to be deploying
    their own root-servers (HLS blah blah) and
    then EACH state can choose if it wants to
    advertise .XXX

    .XXX is already in the root.
    http://www.New.Net and various ICANN Registrars are moving forward.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    The New.Net .XXX Solution Allows ICANN to Bow Out
    by Anonymous on Tuesday August 16 2005, @05:16PM (#15924)
    The New.Net .XXX Solution Allows ICANN to Bow Out

    The U.S. Government can also wash their hands of
    the mess. Registrars that really really want to
    sell the New.Net .XXX names can do so. [Note the
    New.Net Registrars that have dropped the .XXX

    Dave Farber [New.Net] can then add .XXX to .ORG
    and the other 25+ TLDs that he has managed to
    put in his portfolio. Being Jon Postel's thesis
    advisor and one of the founders of ICANN of
    course does not hurt. Being part of the FCCC
    also helps. Your .ORG tax dollars at work.

    ICANN can just move on and now retire on their
    .NET cash flow. They really have nothing left
    to do except travel around like RIRs and tell
    everyone that they are doing it for the good
    of the community. Riiiiiight !!!!
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    .XXX is a Done Deal - ICANN is .FREE From DOC.USG
    by Anonymous on Wednesday August 17 2005, @12:20AM (#15925)
    .XXX is a Done Deal - ICANN is .FREE From DOC.USG
    .XXX is a Done Deal - ICANN is .FREE From DOC.USG

    http://www.circleid.com/article/1172_0_ 1_0_C/
    Objections to .XXX, Attention in High Places
    Aug 16, 2005 | From CircleID Top-Level Domains
    By Suresh Ramasubramanian
    http://www.merit.edu/mail.archive s/nanog/msg10580.html
    # From: Suresh Ramasubramanian[.IN]
    # Date: Wed Aug 17 00:24:15 2005
    "moving a bunch of  domains that we run mail for to ultradns"
    http://www.icann.org/committees/nom-com m/bios-2005.htm
    The members of the 2005 Nominating Committee are: Marilyn Cade, Rodney Joffe[UltraDNS], Ram Mohan[.IN], Elliot Noss
    "a technology think-tank that became the birthplace of UltraDNS"

    .XXX is a Done Deal - ICANN is .FREE From DOC.USG
    Move On
    .XXX is a Done Deal - ICANN is .FREE From DOC.USG
    Get a Life

    .IN - Back Home Again in .INdiana
    .INdiana Wants You - Deposit Coin Here
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    we request that SITA states clearly and publicly
    by Anonymous on Wednesday August 17 2005, @01:38AM (#15932)
    http://www.icann.org/tlds/wischhoefer-to-touton-30 aug01.htm

    Now SITA, the Sponsor of the new sTLD (".aero"), informed us about their intention to use IATA 2-character airline designator codes (Resolution 762) in the second level domain of the structure of the new .aero TLD.

    We discussed this request with Ms Rosa Delgado, Internet Industry Relations Director of SITA. Relevant excerpts of these discussion via e-mail are attached to this document. (Annex II)

    Ms Delgado informed us that SITA is working in close collaboration with the main aviation organizations i.e. IATA (International Air Transport Association), ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization), ACI (Airports Council International) and SITA (Société Internationale de Télécommunications Aéronautique) in this area.

    As .aero is a restricted TLD specifically addressed to the global aviation community, SITA believes that the utilization of the IATA two-character airline codes provides a real value to specific communities and enhances the utility of the sTLDs in cyberspace.

    After having considering all information provided by SITA we would like to state the following:

            The ISO 3166/MAS does not object to the request of SITA. We do not expect any serious problems if SITA reserves the IATA two-character airline designator codes in the restricted .aero domain. However, we request that SITA states clearly and publicly that two-letter combinations preceding .aero have nothing to do with the ISO 3166-1 two-letter codes (i.e. ccTLDs) in the .aero TLD.

    The reasoning for this attitude of the ISO 3166/MAS is as follows:

            IATA two-letter codes for airlines have been in use in the aviation community for about 50 years. They are a well established coding system within that community. The chances that these two-letter code elements can be mistaken for ISO 3166-1 Alpha-2 code elements are thus quite small.

    Finally, we would like to state that the assessment of the particular situation within the aviation community (.aero) made by the ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency Secretariat must under no circumstances be regarded as setting a precedent for possible uses of two-letter codes as SLDs in other new TLDs.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    ICANN must succeed or Internet will be in jeopardy
    by Anonymous on Wednesday August 17 2005, @05:39AM (#15940)
    "ICANN must succeed or Internet will be in jeopardy"

    Cerf, ISOC and other insiders launch FUD campaign

    http://archives.openflows.org/hacktivi sm/hacktivism01014.html

    The COOK Report has received the full text of nine email messages
    detailing ICANN's efforts in June to stave off bankruptcy.  It has
    obtained independent verification that they are messages that were
    given by ICANN to the House Commerce Committee Subcommitte on
    Oversight and Investigations that held hearings on July 22.  The
    e-mail below makes very clear that ICANN's support is focused largely
    within IBM, MCI, Cisco, and the Executive Office of the President of
    the United States.

    On the same day Vint Cerf replied in a message showing the unusual
    length that he was prepared to go to salvage ICANN as an MCI/IBM
    control vehicle:

        Cerf: "I have talked with John Sidgmore.  We will try to get $500K
        at least "backup" in case nothing else in the way of fundraising
        works.  Mike Nelson, I have copied John Patrick and Irving
        Wladawsky-Berger [Editor: an IBM e-commerce executive] on this
        message, as well as John  Sidgmore. If IBM and MCI Worldcom can
        come up with $1M in "bridge" funding, to be paid back at a later
        time under reasonable terms that will not harm ICANN, then perhaps
        we can begin a new fundraising campaign knowing that we have the
        ability to back up the campaign with a rescue effort in the short
        term.  It will be easier for John Sidgmore to make the case to the
        MCI WorldCom management if IBM is willing to go into this with us
        and split the $1M cost.  Is it possible?

        "I would then launch a campaign with GIP, ITAA, Internet Society,
        and other interested groups on the basis that
        *ICANN must succeed or Internet will be in jeopardy.  This ought
        to play well with any company whose stock price is dependent on a
        well-functioning Internet." "Thoughts?"*
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    by Anonymous on Wednesday August 24 2005, @02:57PM (#16075)
    It's a case already discussed. It doesn't matter if we like it or not. It has the right to exist.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]

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