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    "United States sought comments and other input"
    by Anonymous on Monday August 15 2005, @11:33AM (#15893)
    http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/COEFAQs.h tm#QE1

    Protocol on the Criminalization of Act of a Racist and Xenophobic Nature Committed Through Computer Systems [ Top ]

    An additional protocol to the Council of Europe Cybercrime Convention, addressing materials and "acts of racist or xenophobic nature committed through computer networks," was proposed by some member States. This additional protocol was the subject of negotiations in late 2001 and early 2002. Final text of this protocol was adopted by the Committee of Ministers on November 7, 2002, and is available at http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/EN/CadreListeTra ites.htm. The protocol opened for signature in late January 2003. A current list of signatories and ratifying States is available on the Council of Europe web site at http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/EN/searchsig.asp ?NT=189&CM=&DF=.

    The protocol requires participating States to criminalize the dissemination of racist and xenophobic material through computer systems, as well as of racist and xenophobic-motivated threats and insults, and denial of the Holocaust and other genocides.

    The United States participated in the negotiations of this protocol despite its concern that the final product would not comport with the U.S. Constitution.

    As with the main Convention, during the drafting and negotiation process, the United States sought comments and other input from a variety of groups representing U.S. interests. In a series of meetings held in 2001 and 2002, representatives of the Departments of Justice, State and Commerce met with representatives of the U.S. technology and communications industry and a variety of public interest groups to hear comments on draft provisions and to share information on the status of the protocol. As with the main Convention, the Council of Europe made numerous successive drafts publicly available.

    The United States does not believe that the final version of the protocol is consistent with its Constitutional guarantees. For that reason, the U.S. has informed the Council of Europe that it will not become a Party to the protocol.

    It is important to note that the protocol is separate from the main Convention. That is, a country that signed and ratified the main Convention, but not the protocol, would not be bound by the terms of the protocol. Thus, its authorities would not be required to assist other countries in investigating activity prohibited by the protocol.
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    Who is Killing the .XXX TLD ? The .KKK of Course
    by Anonymous on Monday August 15 2005, @11:38AM (#15894)
    Who is Killing the .XXX TLD ? The .KKK of Course

    "The United States does not believe that the final version of the protocol is consistent with its Constitutional guarantees. For that reason, the U.S. has informed the Council of Europe that it will not become a Party to the protocol."

    If the U.S. Government allows TLDs with three letters and the same letter, then the .KKK will want to be treated the same.

    Technologists are being prepared to lie and claim
    that TLDs can not have all of the letters the same. Cerf is still telling people 4-letter TLDs do not work. That is one reason .INFO is dieing.
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    Dave Farber From the FCC is Making .XXX an Issue
    by Anonymous on Monday August 15 2005, @12:04PM (#15896)
    Dave Farber From the FCC is Making .XXX an Issue

    Dave Farber is of course one of the people behind the .XXX that New.Net has working as a Proof-of-Concept. The plan is to get the USG to
    block .XXX and people will be invited to enter
    the back door and quietly select Dave Farber's
    .XXX TLD. Dave Farber was Jon Postel's thesis
    advisor. They know how to play this game well.

    http://www.interesting-people.org/archive s/interesting-people/200507/msg00009.html

    &nbsp ;       ... As such, the United States ... will therefore maintain its historic role in authorizing changes or modifications to the authoritative root zone file.

    In other words, somebody in the US Government will have to accept the responsibility for approving .xxx. That could easily put a big dent in some aspiring bureaucrat's career prospects. Will NTIA drop the another shoe and overturn ICANN's decision with regard to .xxx?
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    Give One Dollar and Get Back Two - Such a Deal
    by Anonymous on Monday August 15 2005, @04:05PM (#15901)
    http://www.isoc.org/isoc/conferences/wsis/wgigcomm ents.shtml

      "During the WGIG discussions there have been many calls for effective multistakeholder processes. An excellent example of such cooperation in the way groups such as the IETF, the Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) and ICANN, etc. work together. Their operations are built on sharing, openness, inclusiveness, and principles such as: "Give one idea and get two back". The success of the Internet has depended to a large extent on this approach and it can be seen in many areas of operation, including IP address allocation and management of the domain name root servers."
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    Why Is Milton Mueller Waking the USG to Kill .XXX?
    by Anonymous on Wednesday August 17 2005, @03:46AM (#15936)
    Why Is Milton Mueller Waking the USG to Kill .XXX? .XXX is a done deal. It is up and running in the .USA [http://www.XXX.NY is still in progress]

    Is Milton upset that he did not get invited to
    the .NY meetings ?

    Why is he trying to wake up the USG ? They are
    not interested in killing .XXX, they want to
    distance themselves from the situation.

    https://ssl.cpsr.org/pipermail/gover nance/2005-August/003338.html

    Many of us have warned for years that the US's unilateral political
    power over ICANN was a problem. Too many people didn't listen. Now that
    power is being displayed and used in a way that even the most abject
    apologists for the system cannot deny.

    Over the weekend ICANN's Governmental Advisory Committee transmitted a
    letter asking ICANN to reverse its decision to approve the .xxx TLD. A
    letter from the US Commerce Dept supporting that request has also been
    filed. http://www.icann.org/correspondence/gallagher-to-c erf-15aug05.pdf

    I believe it is essential that NCUC, ALAC and WSIS civil society join
    together in a resolution or letter to ICANN, its GAC and the US Commerce
    department expressing concern over and opposition to the GAC's attempt
    to reverse the .xxx delegation.

    GAC is not reversing anything, they are clueless. .XXX is a done deal. The names are cheaper
    than what ICANN would prefer and ICANN gets $0.


    Is Milton upset that ICANN gets $0 ?
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