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    Of Course ICANN and RIRs Love the Clueless GAC
    by Anonymous on Thursday June 16 2005, @06:48PM (#15612)
    Of Course ICANN and RIRs Love the Clueless GAC

    Is that surprising ?
    ICANN and the RIRs could not hope for a better
    situation, especially with the U.S. Government.

    They have to deal with ONE low-level clerk from
    the U.S. on the GAC ?

    Do you think they have any difficulty giving that
    person the mushroom treatment ? [keep them in
    the dark and feed them loads of .BS]

    The key in the U.S. is to educate the State
    Governments. They then produce the pressures
    at the Federal level to fund their agendas.
    Domain names and IP address space leasing are
    "found money" for State and Federal governments.
    They now see how it funds the ISOC and how
    your .ORG tax dollars work. Citizens will rally
    around their State governments over the .XXX
    issues. You can hear the drums starting to beat.

    Hillary '08 - Queen of the .XXX ISOC Parade
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    The .NET is Rapidly Moving Toward Walled Gardens
    by Anonymous on Thursday June 16 2005, @07:08PM (#15613)
    The .NET is Rapidly Moving Toward Walled Gardens

    ICANN is really helping to accelerate the growth
    of Walled Gardens. High bandwidth services are
    also helping to accelerate the migration.

    People with rose-colored-glasses visiting and
    living in Geneva, likely do not see the trends.
    They of course have an almost limitless line of
    suckers willing to trot to Geneva to pay $5 for
    a cup of coffee to debate global gardens in the

    Meanwhile, ISPs back in the good old USSA are
    planting the seeds for their Walled Gardens
    and the demand is growing. Their local, State
    and Federal Government elected representatives
    are now more educated and are becomg much
    better Cyberspace Farmers and Prospectors.

    There is gold in them thar hills and they will
    find it and mine it and not pay much attention
    to what is happening in the diamond mines of
    South Africa or the newest RIR across the street
    there. They will also ignore the diamond markets
    in the Netherlands and the IP Address Space
    brokers there.

    Cyberspace Homesteading and a new Domain Name
    Gold Rush are helping to fuel the economy in
    America. Sell to the market. Consumers
    self-regulate the demand and determine what
    sells. ICANN and the ITU can help third-world
    countries regulate their markets. They clearly
    are ineffective in the .US market.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Where is the RE-BID Process for .US ?
    by Anonymous on Thursday June 16 2005, @07:15PM (#15615)
    .US "granted in October 2001 for a period of four years"

    Where is the U.S. Government RE-BID Process for .US ?

    Looks like an opportunity for ICANN to pocket
    some nice $50,000 application fees from a new
    group of fools. As they say, fools and their money.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    The UN is Not Where One Wants to Hang Out
    by Anonymous on Thursday June 16 2005, @07:34PM (#15616)
    "The UN Working Group concluded its public consultations"

    The UN is Not Where One Wants to Hang Out

    You might want to check .CNN or .FOX for the
    latest .NEWS. [Your WIFI Router should have those
    TLDs wired to the wire services.]

    The la-la-land days of bobble-heads like Cerf
    running around telling everyone "The Internet
    is For Everyone" are largely over.

    Internet Technology (packet transports) are
    being born-again in suburban ghettos filled
    with Xboxen, PSPs and WIFI war drivers. The
    new generation of .KIDS could not care less
    about ICANN and the IANA beanie-wearing geeks.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    WGIG members secluded themselves in a chateau
    by Anonymous on Friday June 17 2005, @06:09AM (#15617)
    "WGIG members secluded themselves in a chateau"

    Have the WGIG members considered using the .NET for their meetings ?

    What happens if the WGIG members come up with one
    answer in MeatSpace and other people come up with
    another answer in CyberSpace ?

    As the always-on, 24x7, CyberSpace Community grows
    in the .USA and filters out the noise from the
    MeatSpace meetings, especially in third-world
    countries, what population defines "the community"
    referred to by ICANN and the ISOC ?

    As BOTS take the place of people in the CyberSpace
    Community, what happens if people realize they
    are governed by BOTS ?

    Are WGIG members afraid of BOTS?

    Is there supposed to be something mystical about
    a secluded chateau in Switzerland ?

    Is this a script for a new Reality IPTV Show ?

    How to Marry an ISOC Millionaire ?

    Survivor ICANN [Switzerland] ?

    Ooops, Milton has been voted off the .NET

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    The Third World JUST Read the White Paper .WARP
    by Anonymous on Friday June 17 2005, @08:17AM (#15618)
    The Third World JUST Read the White Paper

    ICANN watchers are seeing a serious Time.WARP
    in progress. The lawyers love it. They now write
    and re-write the ICANN by-laws to their liking
    and in about 7 years, the rest of the world will
    start to read what is written today. This allows
    the lawyers and ISOC insiders to predict the
    future. They ride the pump-and-dump stock schemes
    because they know in advance exactly what will

    Watch as Dyson's NeuStar Pump and Dump stock
    scheme rolls out for the **NEW** .BIZ TLD and
    of course .TRAVEL and the .M TLD (aka .MOBI).

    It is Summer in the .US so that means the insiders
    gather at the Aspen Institute to work out what
    will happen in a few years, when they get around
    to it.

    Meanwhile, clueless people just entering what
    the insiders call, "the process" (aka The Matrix),
    are JUST now reading the White Paper.

    Fools and their money.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    What TLDs Has Ann Selected for Mr. Bill ?
    by Anonymous on Friday June 17 2005, @08:29AM (#15619)
    What TLDs Has Ann Selected for Mr. Bill ?

    Keywords: RAND, Aspen Institute, Kellog

    http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/bod/k orologos/default.mspx

    Ann McLaughlin Korologos
    Chairman, RAND Corporation; Chairman Emeritus, The Aspen Institute; Senior Advisor, Benedetto, Gartland & Co. Inc.

    On September 29, 1989, President Bush appointed Mrs. Korologos Chairman of the President's Commission on Aviation Security and Terrorism. The Commission presented its report to the president and concluded its work on May 15, 1990. The report reviewed and evaluated policy options in connection with aviation security, with particular reference to the destruction of Pan American Airways Flight 103.

    She currently serves as a member of the Board of Directors of several corporation including AMR Corporation (and its subsidiary, American Airlines), Fannie Mae, Harman International Industries, Inc., Kellogg Company, Microsoft Corporation, and Host Marriott Corporation.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    ICANN Moving to Pari$ and Then to Geneva $$$$$$$
    by Anonymous on Friday June 17 2005, @08:41AM (#15620)
    ICANN Moving to Pari$ and Then to Geneva $$$$$$$

    The ISOC insiders already have many of their
    assets in private Swiss bank accounts. Your
    .ORG tax dollars are safe with them. uh huh

    Excerpts from the recent address of the President and CEO of ICANN to the Working Group for Internet Governance (WGIG).

    ICANN's establishment in California is a consequence of history. Jon Postel, the long standing coordinator of the IANA functions was based at the University of Southern California. Jon was designated ICANN's first Chief Technology Officer but was preempted from taking the position due to his untimely death. The legal instrument available in California to establish such a public benefit function, including its multi-stakeholder expression, is a not-for-profit, public benefit corporation. I must stress that the term 'corporation' here does not mean the usual private sector or for-profit company. But the ICANN Board does understand that the term may cause confusion, especially to people not aware of California not-for-profit law.

    ICANN's agreements with registries and registrars are based in well-established principles of international private law. Cognizant of the questioning about the reliance on a single legal jurisdiction, ICANN has started amending its generic Top Level Domain agreements to enshrine dispute resolution through compulsory arbitration under the auspices of the International Chamber of Commerce in Paris or other similar international dispute resolution forums.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    U.S. Senate, FTC, and DOC Set to FREEZE .COM Whois
    by Anonymous on Saturday June 18 2005, @06:26AM (#15623)
    U.S. Senate, FTC, and DOC Set to FREEZE .COM Whois

    Keywords: Identity_Theft FTC DOC DOJ ICANN ARIN .COM Verisign

    The U.S. Senate is finally seeing the result of
    putting too many eggs in one database. Identity
    Theft is now being revealed as one of the fastest
    growing crimes, fueled partly by the mis-guided
    WHOIS policies of ICANN and ARIN.

    The great Revelation is finally happening in
    Washington D.C. Senators now have tens of millions
    of people calling them and complaining about the
    crimes that ICANN and the rest of the ISOC are
    helping to facilitate.

    ICANN Registrars are now one of the main targets
    of the investigations. Registrars are largely
    unsupervised and are allowed to take domain names
    that may or may not be dropped and MINE them for
    personal information, such as passwords and
    account numbers. Registrars are paying people
    to do the Phishing and Pharming.

    Clueless Banks and U.S. Government agencies of
    course continue to send e-mail to addresses with
    domains that are now re-directed to ICANN Registrars. Those Registrars then impersonate
    you and learn as much as possible to steal your
    identity and information which they then sell
    via their nefarious network of insiders.

    The .COM names are the largest targets. The
    U.S. Government is partly to blame. Via Hillary
    Clinton and Ira Magaziner's ICANN, they turned
    over what should be private, government-secured
    record-keeping to the Private Sector. That was
    a theme of the Clinton Administration. Sleeze
    balls loved to see that trend. They of course
    stepped up and paid what ever price was demanded
    by ICANN to have a shot at being in the loop of

    Naive academics of course can not believe that
    someone would take your old domain name, re-activate e-mail, and filter YOUR messages that
    may stray to a name you forgot to renew or which
    your vendor still thinks is you. Naive academics
    shaped the ICANN policies along with that
    brilliant Washington D.C. trademark lobby who
    do not use the Internet for personal matters.

    One solution is to FREEZE the .COM whois database.
    The U.S. Department of Commerce now needs to
    step in and place another level of indirection
    into the DNS-to-WHOIS linkage. There is no reason
    why WHOIS should be directly connected to DNS.

    The new .COM DNS technology can then be inserted,
    as the U.S. Government phases OUT Verisign and
    ICANN and the Registrars. NeuStar should be able
    to explain how it works to the U.S. Senate and
    the other U.S. Government agencies which are now
    finally stepping up to try to help put and end
    to the GROWING use of the Internet for crime.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    .COM Flag Day Coming July 4th - Year TBD
    by Anonymous on Sunday June 19 2005, @06:15AM (#15625)
    U.S. Senate, FTC, and DOC Set to FREEZE .COM Whois

    .COM Flag Day Coming July 4th - Year TBD

    On the .COM Flag Day, major .COM owners activate
    their .COM nodes in the new always-on 24x7 .COM
    Mesh Registry. Their WHOIS information is sucked
    from the master WHOIS and certified on that date.

    From that day forward, they ignore their Registrar
    the Verisign Registry and of course ICANN. The
    British-based model of Internet Governance is
    tossed in the sea, just like tea at the Boston
    Tea Party. Taxation without representation does
    not work in the .USA.

    British accents may sound proper and official
    on GNSO conference calls where everyone gets their
    ya-yas calling each other councillor, but they
    do not fool Americans. Twomey and his band of
    thieves will be run out of America. The U.S.
    Senate and the FCC can then be proud once again
    of being the elected representatives of the
    .COM community.

    As for the .ORG community, let them eat cake.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    New U.S. Government Naming Policy From ICANN ?
    by Anonymous on Monday June 20 2005, @03:11AM (#15629)

    Read the rest of this comment...

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    The Future of .ORG ? "Let them eat cake,"
    by Anonymous on Monday June 20 2005, @03:20AM (#15631)
    We're not entirely sure who said "Let them eat cake," but we can tell you that it wasn't Marie Antoinette. This flippant phrase about consuming pastry is commonly attributed to the frivolous queen in the days leading up to the French Revolution. Supposedly, she spoke these words upon hearing how the peasantry had no bread to eat. But biographers and historians have found no evidence that Marie uttered these words or anything like them.

    Our old pal Cecil Adams of The Straight Dope explains the quotation was first written by French philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau in Confessions. Actually, Rousseau wrote "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche," which essentially means "let them eat a type of egg-based bread" (not quite cake, but still a bit extravagant). Rousseau claimed that "a great princess" told the peasants to eat cake/brioche when she heard they had no bread.

    But Rousseau wrote this in early 1766, when Marie Antoinette was only 10 years old, still living in her native Austria and not yet married to King Louis XVI. So it's highly unlikely that Marie uttered the pompous phrase. Perhaps Rousseau invented them to illustrate the divide between royalty and the poor -- which is certainly how the phrase has been used ever since.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Jon Postel's IAHC Has a New Plan For the DOJ
    by Anonymous on Monday June 20 2005, @06:04AM (#15635)
    To: cryptography@metzdowd.com
    Subject: US DoJ wants ISPs to be forced to log their customers activities
    From: "Perry E. Metzger"
    Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:20:39 -0400


          The U.S. Department of Justice is quietly shopping around the
          explosive idea of requiring Internet service providers to retain
          records of their customers' online activities.

    http://news.com.com/Your+ISP+as+Net+watchdog/2100- 1028_3-5748649.html

    Perry E. Metzger perry@piermont.com

    The Cryptography Mailing List
    Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo@metzdowd.com
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    19 Year Olds Now At the CONTROLS of the .NET
    by Anonymous on Monday June 20 2005, @06:17AM (#15636)
    19 Year Olds Now At the CONTROLS of the .NET

    Millions of 19 year olds now have high-speed .NET connections, and low-cost routers which
    THEY can freely program. What will they create?
    Will they be smart enough to block all traffic
    not coming from their generation ?

    Bomb-building facility opens its doors
    Public gets rare look at calutrons that fueled first A-bomb
    http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/06/14/little. boy.fuel.ap/index.html

    Tuesday, June 14, 2005 Posted: 10:39 AM EDT (1439 GMT)

    OAK RIDGE, Tennessee (AP) -- The government is offering a rare glimpse of the
    massive machines used to enrich uranium for the "Little Boy" bomb -- the first
    atomic weapon used in war, dropped 60 years ago in August on Hiroshima, Japan.

    Inside the high-security Y-12 nuclear weapons plant remain the last of 1,152
    calutrons that once filled nine buildings. The machinery was part of the
    top-secret bomb-building Manhattan Project, which turned this rural countryside
    about 30 miles west of Knoxville into a "secret city" of 75,000 people between
    1942 and 1945.

    "Don't you know the people in Knoxville wondered what in the world was going on
    out here," Department of Energy guide Ray Smith said Monday. "All this material
    was coming in, truckload after truckload, and nothing ever left."

    About 50 kilograms of highly enriched uranium were produced in Oak Ridge over a
    year's time for the Little Boy bomb -- all carried in briefcases by
    plainclothes couriers to Los Alamos, New Mexico, where the bomb was partially
    assembled before being moved to Tinian in the Northern Marianas Islands and
    loaded onto the B-29 Enola Gay for the bomb run over Hiroshima on August 6,

    Many of those questions remain in this still highly classified environment,
    where today nuclear warhead parts are dismantled and refurbished and bomb-grade
    uranium is stockpiled.

    For the first time, the public will be allowed to see the old calutron machines
    -- devices used for separating out fissionable uranium for reactor fuel or
    bombs -- in tours this weekend as part of Oak Ridge's annual Secret City

    The tours quickly filled in advance with more than 600 people signing up.

    Even many who worked here didn't know exactly what they were working on until
    the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, killing more than 100,000. Japan surrendered
    less than a month later.

    "I wouldn't have known what an atomic bomb was. I had never heard of it," said
    Gladys Owens, 80, of Harlan, Kentucky, who was among scores of young women
    hired to control electric current in the calutrons on orders from the

    The calutrons separated fissile Uranium 235 for the bomb using huge magnets and
    vast quantities of electricity from the government-owned Tennessee Valley

    Owens, who was 19 and just out of high school when she worked here from January
    until August 1945, said she didn't piece together her place in history until
    she attended the festival last year, saw her picture in the historical displays
    and was given a private tour.

    Her reaction?

    "Mostly, I thank God the state of Tennessee is still on the map," she said, with
    a laugh. "Because I was right here at the controls. At 19 years old."
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Paul Vixie's Stooge Joe Now Steering NANOG
    by Anonymous on Monday June 20 2005, @06:40AM (#15637)
    Paul Vixie's Stooge Joe Now Steering NANOG


    NANOG is funded by ARIN - The Postel Workers Labor Union headed by Paul Vixie, Bill Manning and David Conrad and other insiders.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    the community does not need is any more half-baked
    by Anonymous on Tuesday June 21 2005, @04:13AM (#15644)
    http://www.internetstudies.org/networks/members/cr aimct/thesis/section5.htm

    Around the time of the Green Paper, Postel put together a “transition advisory group” of six highly influential members of the Internet engineering community. They were: Brian Carpenter, Program Director, Internet standards and technology, IBM, and Chair, IAB; Randy Bush, Director of network engineering, Verio, Board of Trustees member, ARIN, and Chair of the IETF’s DNS working group; David Farber, Professor, computer and information science and electrical engineering, University of Pennsylvania, Board of Trustees member, ISOC; Geoff Huston, Technical Manager for Telstra (formerly Telecom Australia) Internet, and President, Internet Society of Australia; John Klensin, Senior Data Architect, MCI Internet Engineering Organization, and Member, IAB; and Steve Wolff, Executive Director, Advanced Internet Initiatives, Cisco Systems, and former Director, NSFNET.

    These are the type of people whom Jon Postel consulted about changes in the Internet’s architecture, not the Internet community at large. It is interesting to note that despite the employment of several of these men at major Internet companies like IBM, Verio, MCI, Telstra, and Cisco, they almost all went there from posts with institutional networks of the non-commercial era. While one might see the names of these companies in the resumes of the leaders of the Internet technical community and come away with the impression that these individuals are representatives of something of an industry group, we must recall David Clark’s words about IETF members, for instance, “leaving their corporate allegiances at the door.” These individuals’ service to agencies like the IAB, IETF, and Postel’s transition advisory group, is in their personal capacity.

    Organizations like the IETF are industry bodies only to the extent that their members work for companies in the industry. Beyond that, the best interests of the Internet itself are paramount. This is particularly the case among the most well-known leaders. This appears to be something of a “code” among these individuals, alternately referred to as “Internet pioneers,” “Internet old-timers,” or the Internet’s “old guard.” Is it arrogance or a genuine belief that he and his fellow transition group members “know what’s best” for the Internet which leads John Klensin of MCI to say:

    One of the diseases of the Internet community is that there are a large number of individuals who say, “Well, everything would be all right if I were in charge.” One of the things the community does not need is any more half-baked proposals, which result in endless, pointless flaming about the details and who was consulted and who wasn’t.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Your .ORG Tax Dollars at Work or Not Work
    by Anonymous on Tuesday June 21 2005, @04:20AM (#15645)
    Your .ORG Tax Dollars at Work or Not Work

    How the Pork (or PORG) will be spread around.

    Randy Bush and John Klensin are of course the shadow figures behind the "Network Startup Resource Center". Funding (Pork) from the U.S. National Science Foundation has paid for their fun and games for years.

    http://www.pir.org/news/ [pir.org]


    Geneva, Switzerland - The Internet Society (ISOC) recently held the first in a series of new workshops for country code Top Level Domain (ccTLD) operators.

    The success of the event was due to the enthusiasm of all who participated and to the efforts of organiser Mirjam Kuehne (ISOC), instructors Lucy Lynch (University of Oregon), Joe Abley and Suzanne Woolf (ISC), Frederico Neves (Registro.br), Jaap Akkerhuis (SIDN), John Crain (IANA/ICANN), Olaf Kolkman (RIPE NCC) and Alain Aina (Technologies Reseaux & Solutions, Togo). Event hosting and administrative support was provided by the RIPE NCC and Michiel Leenaars of the ISOC Netherlands chapter.

    ----------------- This has to be the best part.

    "Participants had the opportunity to learn not only how to set up the required technical infrastructure, but also how to interact with bodies such as IANA and ICANN - the practical details of knowing who to talk to"

    Translation: Just talk to "the right people".
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    "governments want a bigger role for themselves"
    by Anonymous on Tuesday June 21 2005, @04:41AM (#15647)
    "governments want a bigger role for themselves"

    The U.S. Government is the only government that really matters. The others follow like sheep.

    The U.S. Government now has had time to get a better handle on things, via the FCC and the traditional telcos that they trust.

    The U.S. Government and the telcos will be Red-Lining the ISP's IP address allocations and cutting off their BGP connections. Wireless ISPs then step in to provide the glue between the telcos and the people. Wireless ISPs fall under the regulation of the FCC and they can live with
    that as the FCC "helps them" remove bad actors[1]
    from the ISP arena.

    [1] Subscribe to NANOG and ARIN lists to build
    a list of IP address blocks to Red-Line.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    ICANN Insiders Invited by GAC to CLOSED Meetings
    by Anonymous on Thursday June 23 2005, @08:04AM (#15670)
    ICANN Insiders Invited by GAC to CLOSED Meetings

        Looks interesting. Are we invited?

    No. I just received clarification on this from the GAC liaison to the GNSO, and the invitation list is as follows:

    (1) GAC Members
    (2) Council Members and Liaisons for the GNSO, CCNSO, and ASO
    (3) Members of the GNSO's Whois Task Force; and
    (4) Members of the ICANN Board and Board Liaisons

    This means, however, that we'll at least have me, Roberto, Erick, and Wendy at the meeting. Bret

    What part of "No" don't you understand?

    Note: It would be embarassing for the GAC to
    have to deal with anyone with a clue and expose
    the clueless GAC members. It is best that they
    are entertained by another clueless group.
    It is called a cluster F*ck.

    Looks like the U.S. FCC is more open and transparent, as well as the U.S. Senate.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Ready for the Green Paper and White Paper AGAIN?
    by Anonymous on Thursday June 23 2005, @06:44PM (#15673)
    >From: "Shipman, Sally A"
    >Subject: Report on Internet Governance: Call for Public Comment
    >Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:23:11 -0400
    >The UN Working Group on Internet Governance (WGIG) will release its report
    >on July 18 in Geneva. The report will be available on the WGIG website
    >(www.wgig.org) as well as on the State Department's WSIS website
    >(http://www.state.gov/e/eb/cip/wsis2005/). Following the release of the
    >report, all stakeholders are encouraged to submit comments to the WSIS
    >Secretariat by August 15. The United States intends to submit comments by
    >that deadline and we strongly encourage all interested parties to make their
    >views known to the WSIS Secretariat directly.
    >As we formulate our comments, we are calling for public input on the WGIG
    >report (please see attached Federal Register Notice). Comments may be sent
    >to shipmansa at state.gov and will be accepted from July 18, 2005 through
    >August 1, 2005. All comments received will be made publicly available on
    >our WSIS website (http://www.state.gov/e/eb/cip/wsis2005/).
    >Sally Shipman
    >Office of International Communications and Information Policy
    >Bureau of Economic and Business Affairs
    >U.S. Department of State
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    ICANN Steps Up to Become "Internet Interpol"
    by Anonymous on Friday June 24 2005, @05:38AM (#15674)
    ICANN Steps Up to Become "Internet Interpol"

    How the IANA dictator Vinton Cerf and the Internet Society will get rid of people they do not like.

    The **ASSUMPTION** is of course that ICANN
    insiders are not bad actors and immune from any
    scrutiny. They ride shotgun in the po-lice cars
    and call the shots. Pay no attention to the fact
    that Bernie Worldcon Ebbers is headed to prison.

    http://australianit.news.com.au/article s/0,7204,15059746%5E24172%5E%5Enbv%5E24169,00.html

    Do we need something like an internet Interpol?

    Perhaps. Although we want to be careful not to introduce a supra-national global police.

    I'm very concerned about abusive censorship. I can understand people's reactions to some of the bad content that's on the network.

    But, if you are not careful, you start down a slippery slope between content that everyone agrees should be eliminated – like child pornography – and political speech.

    To introduce mechanisms governments could engage that would allow censorship of political speech is worrisome to me.

    I would be loath to introduce tools like that which could be broadly abused by governments or by anybody else.

    On the other hand, filtering on the edges of the net that is induced by the party that wants to be protected seems perfectly sensible.

    We have to find ways to allow for healthy business development, but at the same time, deal with seriously bad actors who are not operating in the interests of users of the internet.

    http://forum.icann.org/mail-archive/a lac/msg01103.html

    By the way, the reason offered for closing the session is that law enforcement personnel will be discussing the ways they use name and address whois services in investigations -- as though that's some big secret.

            Looks interesting. Are we invited?

        No. I just received clarification on this from the GAC liaison to the GNSO, and the invitation list is as follows:
        (1) GAC Members
        (2) Council Members and Liaisons for the GNSO, CCNSO, and ASO
        (3) Members of the GNSO's Whois Task Force; and
        (4) Members of the ICANN Board and Board Liaisons

        This means, however, that we'll at least have me, Roberto, Erick, and Wendy at the meeting. Bret
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    ICANN Black-Tie Dinner Planned with James Bond
    by Anonymous on Friday June 24 2005, @10:51AM (#15678)
    ICANN Black-Tie Dinner Planned with James Bond

    The new .007 TLD will be unveiled.

    ICANN Welcome Ceremony 09.00-10.00

    GAC Working Groups****:

    Closed Session 08.30-13.00

    WG4: ccTLD policy 08.30-10.00
    ccNSO-Policy Development Process
    Accountability Frameworks

    WG7: Structure & Finance



    Open session with ICANN

    Evening: Gala Dinner
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    The Same Insiders Over and Over The Same Insiders
    by Anonymous on Friday June 24 2005, @11:18AM (#15679)

    Read the rest of this comment...

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    How Much More Naive Can Milton Mueller Get ?
    by Anonymous on Saturday June 25 2005, @04:31AM (#15682)
    How Much More Naive Can Milton Mueller Get ?

    "if you are in Washington, you can come to our symposium July 28 and
    sound off, with US State Dept people there. See

    Dr. Milton Mueller
    Syracuse University School of Information Studies
    http: //www.internetgovernance.org"

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx
    1. Why would anyone waste their time ?
    2. What security measures are provided ?
    [Note: Registrars now travel with several body guards]
    3. With the FCC and U.S. Senate actively working
    on solutions to protect .KIDS from the VIXXXIE Root, why would one want to duplicate that ?
    4. Is the goal to get enough human bodies in
    a meeting to continue the charade that ICANN
    matters ?
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    mechanisms for national governments to participate
    by Anonymous on Saturday June 25 2005, @04:40AM (#15683)
    The Globalisation of Regulation and its Impact on the Domain Name System: Domain Names and a New Regulatory Economy
    Queensland University of Technology (QUT), 2003

    My doctoral dissertation is titled The Globalisation of Regulation and its Impact on the Domain Name System: Domain Names and the New Regulatory Economy. It is an examination of the orderly development of globally applicable standards and norms for managing the critical technical infrastructure of the Internet. It is a technical work which demonstrates an understanding of the domain name system; the politics and policies surrounding the management of the technical resources that enable the Internet to function and the broader influences of the development of a hybrid regulatory agency.

    The key findings of my research are that the Internet Domain Name System and its governance present a new perspective on the discussion of the globalisation of business regulation. I have found that national governments have, despite ongoing control within their national jurisdiction, little effective influence over the management and governance of the Domain Name System at an international level. I have found that corporations have significant power to determine the way in which policies for the management of the technical resources of the Internet are discussed, developed to consensus positions, implemented and reviewed.

    The research focuses on the development and construction of mechanisms for national governments to participate in ICANN. It addresses the broad constitution of ICANN and the apparent consensus that governments don't or shouldn't or can't have a substantive role in Internet governance in a global, multi-jurisdictional environment. At the same time, national governments around the world have been actively reconsidering their role in the domestic governance of their portion of Internet architecture, namely geographic country code identifiers which, for many developing economies, are viewed as a national asset.

    Global governance by the private sector of public resources that are now commercially mission-critical is a highly volatile and still evolving area of inquiry. The research is an extension of a comprehensive understanding of the international telecommunications sector where a clear grasp of the national and international policy priorities to enable market liberalisation and the introduction of competition are critical.

    The importance of technical standards and the role of technology in determining effective regulatory frameworks in the realm of electronic commerce have led to discussions of legislation and regulation; sovereignty and stewardship; ownership and trusteeship; national and international jurisdiction; and commercial and non-commercial treatment of Internet. In addition, I have an undergraduate background in international politics and policy (Australian National University) and a Masters in Communication (University of Canberra) on regulating the Internet and privacy.
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