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    Re:ICANN Thought Police Force Starts to Take Shape
    by Anonymous on Monday June 06 2005, @06:50AM (#15470)
    I walk down Calle 23, otherwise known as "La Rampa," which became famous in the pre-revolution days for its gambling and gangster scene. The streets are devoid of advertising and filled with party propaganda. My favorite: "I [heart] my CDR." Committees in Defense of the Revolution are the evil twin of neighborhood watch groups. There's one on almost every block. Staffed by locals, you go to them to, say, complain about potholes. They also control jobs. And they snitch on you.
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    Re:ICANN Thought Police Force Starts to Take Shape
    by Anonymous on Monday June 06 2005, @06:52AM (#15471)
    In Cuba, the word for snitch is chiva. When we were in Havana, we visited the Museum of the Revolution, and I saw the actual hand-written statement the rebels had read on the air after seizing the national radio station. Among other things, they asked the people for help in catching the chivas who had served the old government, the chivas who had tormented the people.

    Now, almost 45 years later, the head of the local committee for the Defense of the Revolution wanted to know the name and location of the place where we had eaten lobster. I told him I didn't remember. He looked at me, suspicious and disbelieving. Unhappy, too, and I thought that unhappiness is the fate of so many revolutionaries.

    In the end, they become what they once despised.
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    Re:ICANN Thought Police Force Starts to Take Shape
    by Anonymous on Monday June 06 2005, @07:16AM (#15472)
    They have been recruited to spy on their fellow citizens, customers and clients, and to promptly report "suspicious" happenings to T.I.P.S. hotlines, and contacts in the U.S. Justice Department.

    Under T.I.P.S. (Terrorism Information and Prevention System) every U.S. street corner, and potentially, every American home and hearth, is to be placed under the ever-open eye of public surveillance. And as the "War" against terrorism is to last for generations, will not this surveillance last for generations also?

    If such an announcement were made in, say, Cuba, would not the U.S. media be in full-bray-mode about the "police state," where "neighbors spy on neighbors?"

    And yet, history, that mistress of long memory, teaches us that there are few new things under the sun.

    In the summer of 1917 over a million Americans entered World War I against Germany. As ever, in times of war, (and WWI was not popular in America) the government sought to stifle dissent, and enlist its citizens in a massive "private" spy campaign against other, "disloyal" citizens. In fact, to the Woodrow Wilson administration, "disloyalty" meant anyone who was critical of the War. The U.S. Justice Dept. sponsored what it called the American Protective League, which by June claimed almost 100,000 "patriotic" members. The U.S. government urged APL members to spy on their neighbors and fellow workers. They rifled through the mails, infiltrated private meetings, and spied on public ones. Criticism of the "European War" was considered a crime. The APL claimed to have found some three million instances of "disloyalty" to the Wilson government, which seemed to please Attorney General A. Mitchell Palmer to no end. "It is safe to say that never in its history has this country been so thoroughly policed," he boasted.

    The great socialist union organizer, Eugene V. Debs, would be sent to prison for speaking against the War, saying, "War throughout history have been waged for conquest and plunder... And that is war in a nutshell. The master class has always declared the wars; the subject class has always fought the battles." For these words, 62-year-old Debs was thrown in prison, sentenced to 10 years. Hundreds of others followed, with the blessing of a unanimous U.S. Supreme Court.

    In 80 years, the nation has gone from the A.P.L. to T.I.P.S. Is the nation doomed to repeat the hellish errors of the past?
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