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    From ICANN's Creators "excise the diseased code"
    by Anonymous on Sunday June 05 2005, @05:56PM (#15466)
    From: Esther Dyson
    Date: June 3, 2005 1:05:17 PM EDT
    To: dave@farber.net
    Subject: Re: [IP] more on ICANN's "ex-ex-ex" domains and the slippery slope (fwd)

    yes, I would be much happier if they had approved a bunch of them, including .sex, .porn, .bank, .fin and the like... allowing for genuine competition among TLD operators with competing and *differentiated* rulesets.

    Right now much of the competition is mostly based on price and worst- wins sleazy business practices.

    Will every registrar have the right to register names in .xxx? (though that question might be more germane relating to .bank and .fin, which could compete on the basis of strong security)

    I also share the concern over the possibility of censorship as opposed to incentives.... pretty soon anything "troublesome" may well get pushed there, whether it's sex, politics, health advice or sheer bad taste.

    Esther Dyson (former chairman of ICANN, wish I had left a better legacy)

    From: mo@ccr.org (Mike O'Dell)
    Date: June 3, 2005 5:27:40 PM EDT
    To: dave@farber.net
    Subject: TLDs, ICANNalia, etc, etc, etc......

    there is no technical reason for synthetic scarcity in DOT
    or otherwise.

    DOT and any (or all) TLDs can be the union of (possibly
    overlapping) pieces. your aggregator can disambiguate as a
    service, for instance. (or aggregate yourself if you care)
    mathematical perfection is no required and possibly not
    even desirable.

    just flush the whole centralized notion and throw it open to
    innovation at the edge.

    some of us knew that creating a big, ugly piece of "common
    equipment" in the center of DNS was a huge botch. but we
    did the experiment anyway and the data is compelling.

    time to excise the diseased code and get on with getting it
    together anew.

    and no, it's unlikely the sky will fall.
    "flaming toads from the sky" is a maybe, but not "falling sky".

    harumph.

            -mo

    From: Joe Pistritto
    Date: June 3, 2005 10:26:41 AM EDT
    To: dave@farber.net, Ip ip
    Subject: Re: [IP] Editors comment on the number of items re ex-ex-ex

    And I'm waiting to see how long it takes before .XXX is the headline on The Drudge Report and the opening topic on The Rush Limbaugh Show the same day... (and probably 10 other talk radio shows).

    Does ICANN have *any idea* what's going to happen on that day? Can their phone switch handle a million incoming phone calls and 10 million incoming pieces of mail?

    (my bet is that the first public effect will be outrage that such a thing exists, rather than considering that it could be a ghetto that that sort of content gets forced into. I could be wrong about this, but I bet that's what happens. It'll only be after the initial public outcry that the 2nd point of view appears in the discourse...)

      -jcp
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    Ya, so what's YOUR point?
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Sunday June 05 2005, @09:09PM (#15467)
    User #2810 Info
    OK, spewmeister, I'll admit you (rarely) get it right, like that it's it all an ISOC conspiracy to drain our precious bodily fluids. So what?

    I've said already that I'm one of the few to get some of your obvious references, let alone some of the more obscure ones. Why keep hammering at it? If almost no-one gets it now, do you really expect some future digital archeologist to grab a few of your bits and fit them together correctly to say Eureka, here Anon knew it all along, and they weren't listening, no wonder they fell into decline so that you, long in your grave, can assume an attitude of smugness? Good on you. You win. So go away. I'm willing to concede that this wiser than all of thou attitude isn't just a quirk of the maggots eating you from within. CSI ICANN, film at 11.

    It's fairly easy to get over this spectacle, I just change my netkook nutbar mod settings to plus one and you disappear, which I'm about to do now, there's nothing to see here, move along.

    Assuming I'm not just committing the fox paw of addressing an annoybot who can't decipher, CUL8R. -g

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