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    The New Root from the U.S. Government - NON-.XXX
    by Anonymous on Friday June 03 2005, @09:59AM (#15424)
    The New Root from the U.S. Government - NON-.XXX

    What people are seeing is a game. In the old days,
    the U.S. Government operated some of the key root
    servers. Some were portrayed as being in military
    bases. That hush-hush government clout, was **used**
    by the insiders to build the base of their
    multi-level-marketing regime (ISOC, ICANN, ARIN, etc.).

    Now that the base is built, and boat loads of
    money are flowing into ICANN, the U.S. Government
    is no longer needed or desired. ICANN can thumb
    their noses at the U.S. Government. Canadian and
    British businessmen have rolled into the U.S.
    with their .XXX TLD and intend to put it into
    the U.S. Government-run root servers. They do
    not care if the U.S. Congress pulls support for
    those root servers. ICANN has enough money to
    put up their own root servers.

    ICANN is longing for the day when the U.S.
    Government openly says, "We have nothing to do
    with that creep show in .LA". ICANN and the
    insiders of course were happy to **use** the U.S.
    Government as a 900 lb. gorilla to stomp out
    any opposition in the early days of building
    ICANN. They can now send the gorilla off to
    Africa or the Middle East.

    What some people are concerned about (right or
    wrong) is that an ICANN without the U.S.
    Government, is an ICANN without any clout. If
    people thought ICANN was a joke in the past, it
    will really be a joke without U.S. Government
    backing.

    Fortunately, time has progressed and it does not
    really matter. The new DNS technology does not
    rely on ICANN or the the U.S. Government. That
    may not stop the U.S. Government from constructing
    a new set of root servers, just in case. That
    will also not stop State Governments from putting
    up their own TLD servers, without ICANN approval.

    The Christian Coalition and the Religious Right,
    that elected George W., can also not be stopped
    from putting up their own root servers. The
    ICANN root servers will be just one of many and
    WITHOUT U.S. Government endorsement. There is no
    way the U.S. Government will openly endorse the .XXX and .PRO "industries", even though they tax
    both industries.

    The under-world (mafia) can also not be prevented
    from putting up their own root-servers to make
    sure that THEIR .XXX and .PRO TLDs operate
    smoothly. They of course will add .CASINO and
    a variety of other TLDs, without needing ICANN.

    What some people are reacting to is that .XXX
    will expose the corrupt under-belly of the .NET
    that most people know is there. They are worried
    that, once exposed, *they* may become the targets
    of more scrutiny. THEY do not want any scrutiny. .XXX will likely bring scrutiny they do not like.
    Too bad. The ICANN corruption is going to bring
    scrutiny from so many sectors ICANN will not
    know what hit it.

    Stay tuned and watch the fireworks.
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    "The ICANN corruption is going to bring scrutiny"
    by Anonymous on Friday June 03 2005, @11:20AM (#15432)
    "The ICANN corruption is going to bring
    scrutiny"

    When Bernie Ebbers and Vinton Cerf see the 85+
    year U.S. Federal Prison sentance for the
    Worldcom swindle, that may be a wake up call.

    Wake up Cerf, you are corrupt, you SOB.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Merchants of Porn
    by Anonymous on Friday June 03 2005, @01:26PM (#15435)
    I agree with this part of your analogy:

    > "Now that the base is built, and boat loads of
    money are flowing into ICANN, the U.S. Government
    is no longer needed or desired. ICANN can thumb
    their noses at the U.S. Government. Canadian and
    British businessmen have rolled into the U.S.
    with their .XXX TLD and intend to put it into
    the U.S. Government-run root servers. They do
    not care if the U.S. Congress pulls support for
    those root servers. ICANN has enough money to
    put up their own root servers.

    ICANN is longing for the day when the U.S.
    Government openly says, "We have nothing to do
    with that creep show in .LA". ICANN and the
    insiders of course were happy to **use** the U.S."

    Yes, its not unlike the privatization schemes of the former USSR or privatization of water & electrical system in Central and South Americas.
    [Maybe Bechtel will buy the Net!]
    --

    I also agree with this part of your statement:

    > "What some people are reacting to is that .XXX
    will expose the corrupt under-belly of the .NET
    that most people know is there. They are worried
    that, once exposed, *they* may become the targets
    of more scrutiny. THEY do not want any scrutiny. .XXX will likely bring scrutiny they do not like."

    ICANN purports their limits to be that of "only Technical Administrators."
    Now; as Tech Admin's they supposedly know the RFCs thus the 'capabilities' of the Net (fair
    enough?), in particularly the 'IPv6 Stack’.

    Now that the ICANN staffers are into negotiations with the ICM Registry, Inc. for the .XXX Top Level Domain (TLD), *** why not expressly stipulate as a condition of the
    Contract that: the XXX extension be handled exclusively by IPv6 stacks only. ***
    Whereby all .XXX DNS traffic is handle via one or two Tunnel Brokers [RFC 3053 (RFC3053) http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3053.html ].

    This will enable the people in Crypto-City [Hello! ;-) Annapolis Jct/MD] to
    map & record the Porn site activity with the latest KM software, making things a snap since the IPv6 transmission layer security feature was optimized to operate with our In-Q-Tel surveillance software. It will easily bring evidence requirements inline with CALEA
    [Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act of 1994], so the U.S.
    Attorneys' Offices [ http://www.obscenitycrimes.org/complaint/OCRstats0 505.htm ] will be happy.

    The Porn Vendor's track-records illustrate that: as a "Community" they can not
    self-regulate nor deliver a secure product.

    Thus, this community group which is known to practice Virulent behavior, should not
    be allowed to operate a gTDL. Instead Icann rewards them with a haven (.xxx) for this
    bad-behavior.

    Why? (rhetorical prose), Because the Security Industry (including: Router Appliance
    Companies) knows that the Porn Site vendors engage in Spyware and Malware
    embedding and deployment. Their bread & butter comes from the fear and damage
    generated from being 'caught' with your pants down (pun). It's kind of like the Firemen
    setting the Fires.

    So when your said: "They are worried
    that, once exposed, *they* may become the targets
    of more scrutiny"

    Your right on target.

    Will get those Porny-little-Bastards!
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