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    "the usual cast of morons at the icann smorgy"
    by Anonymous on Saturday May 28 2005, @04:04AM (#15386)
        * From: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
        * Date: Fri May 27 19:06:24 2005

    as i've mentioned previously, when proposing a work-around for the mess
    that a blind use of iso3166 causes for territorial jurisdictions, jon and
    i were talking about using x.121 _in_theory_ to aggregate what i knew then
    (and i know still are) technically weak and policy incomplete states in
    the americas, and africa.

    we were talking about nics, not nocs, but at that point in time (and now),
    for some territorial jurisdictions, the distinction is artifician, a 1st

    http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-dis cuss/mail-archive/04468.html

    definitely not that any of this will change the minds of any of the usual
    cast of morons at the icann smorgy.

    i don't have my correspondence with jon, some of it was simply chatting
    at an ietf.


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    Re:"the usual cast of morons at the icann smorgy"
    by Anonymous on Saturday May 28 2005, @04:06AM (#15387)
    * From: Randy Bush
            * Date: Fri May 27 18:53:30 2005

    btw, i just remembered something from the distant past which is
    relevant to geoff's stuff on the wsis geo allocation kink.

    jon postel tried per-country allocations back in the late '80s.
    this was especially in the new african networks. e.g. a block
    to south africa etc.

    both south africa and jon found it to be a disaster and backed
    out. uneven policy. big waste. horrible local political
    pressure on the local allocator. ... it was a mess and gained

    unfortunately jon has since died, as has vic shaw the main guy
    on the south african end. but folk over there such as mike
    lawrie, jacot guillarmad, chris pinkham, alan barrett should
    remember. and i have some of the email, fwiw.

    not that any of this will change the minds of those thinking
    this a path to increased power.


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