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    Taxation and Representation
    by Anonymous on Sunday May 22 2005, @04:53PM (#15327)
    WOW, ICANN received a comment on the budget.
    That will of course be claimed to be supported
    by a broad consensus of "the community".
    Silence is support and comments are viewed as
    noise. ICANN wins either way. That is the ISOC way.

    Taxation and Representation

        * To: <budget-comments@xxxxxxxxx>
        * Subject: Taxation and Representation
        * From: "Richard Henderson" <richardhenderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
        * Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 20:28:20 +0100

    It's interesting that about half of ICANN's total projected income is intended to come from the Transaction Based Registrar Fee (in other words, paid to ICANN by Registrants when they acquire a domain name) and yet nowhere in ICANN's structure do I find an equivalent representation of the Registrant constituency, or indeed even the existence of a Registrant's constituency.

    Registrants in the coming year are estimated to be paying ICANN (through their Transactions with Registrars) $11,788,252 of ICANN's total projected income of $23,453,760.

    That is a lot of taxation for zero representation.


    Richard H

    [Ed. Welcome to the club. If you think ICANN is
    bad, you should see how the politicians (lawyers)
    structure the U.S. life-style. They get their
    cut on every thing that moves and breaths. They
    of course then fund pork projects (called
    government) including academic groupies who live
    off the NSF-dole and other agencies. It is all
    viewed as the price-of-admission to exist in the
    .USA. Many people just exist to fund those who play.]
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re:Taxation and Representation
    by Anonymous on Sunday May 22 2005, @06:20PM (#15330)
    "That is a lot of taxation for zero representation."

    Some would claim that the Registrars own all of
    the names. There is no such thing as a Registrant,
    or at best, they are viewed as spectators. This
    is similar to attending a movie. Your ticket allows
    you to watch, not to own the theatre or the seat.

    Your fee to the Registrar is to allow you to
    direct where **their** name points. Since they
    can take the name away from you, you clearly do
    not own it. [Compare that to Microsoft hard-coding
    Windows.COM or any other names in their products.
    There is no Registrar or Registry. Duh!]

    Getting back to why the Registrars pay, it is
    one of their ways to attempt to prevent other
    competition. They pay ICANN to keep others out.
    With domain names now BELOW the Registry price
    to Registrars, anyone can be a Registrar. ICANN
    has of course headed that off by inserting
    their fees first in the transaction flow.

    The ICANN two-level multi-level-marketing
    structure of Registry and Registrar also helps
    to prevent out-siders from participating.
    The barriers to entry are carefully constructed
    and deployed to serve ICANN's financial interests.
    It should not be surprising that ICANN collects
    no matter what. Like a Casino, ICANN is set up
    to take the house percentage. As long as there
    are players, there will be an ICANN.
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