Inside ICANNWatch  
Submit Story
Lost Password
Site Messages
Top 10 Lists
Latest Comments
Search by topic

Our Mission
ICANN for Beginners
About Us
How To Use This Site
Slash Tech Info
Link to Us
Write to Us

  Useful ICANN sites  
  • ICANN itself
  • Bret Fausett's ICANN Blog
  • Internet Governance Project
  • UN Working Group on Internet Governance
  • Karl Auerbach web site
  • MŁller-Maguhn home
  • UDRPinfo.com;
  • UDRPlaw.net;
  • CircleID;
  • LatinoamerICANN Project
  • ICB Tollfree News

  •   At Large Membership and Civil Society Participation in ICANN  
  • icannatlarge.com;
  • Noncommercial Users Constituency of ICANN
  • NAIS Project
  • ICANN At Large Study Committee Final Report
  • ICANN (non)Members page
  • ICANN Membership Election site

  • ICANN-Related Reading
    Browse ICANNWatch by Subject

    Ted Byfied
    - ICANN: Defending Our Precious Bodily Fluids
    - Ushering in Banality
    - ICANN! No U CANN't!
    - roving_reporter
    - DNS: A Short History and a Short Future

    David Farber
    - Overcoming ICANN (PFIR statement)

    A. Michael Froomkin
    - When We Say US™, We Mean It!
    - ICANN 2.0: Meet The New Boss
    - Habermas@ discourse.net: Toward a Critical Theory of Cyberspace
    - ICANN and Anti-Trust (with Mark Lemley)
    - Wrong Turn in Cyberspace: Using ICANN to Route Around the APA & the Constitution (html)
    - Form and Substance in Cyberspace
    - ICANN's "Uniform Dispute Resolution Policy"-- Causes and (Partial) Cures

    Milton Mueller
    - Ruling the Root
    - Success by Default: A New Profile of Domain Name Trademark Disputes under ICANN's UDRP
    - Dancing the Quango: ICANN as International Regulatory Regime
    - Goverments and Country Names: ICANN's Transformation into an Intergovernmental Regime
    - Competing DNS Roots: Creative Destruction or Just Plain Destruction?
    - Rough Justice: A Statistical Assessment of the UDRP
    - ICANN and Internet Governance

    David Post
    - Governing Cyberspace, or Where is James Madison When We Need Him?
    - The 'Unsettled Paradox': The Internet, the State, and the Consent of the Governed

    Jonathan Weinberg
    - Sitefinder and Internet Governance
    - ICANN, Internet Stability, and New Top Level Domains
    - Geeks and Greeks
    - ICANN and the Problem of Legitimacy

    Highlights of the ICANNWatch Archive
    (June 1999 - March 2001)

    This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
    The Caribbean moves to Europe | Log in/Create an Account | Top | 56 comments | Search Discussion
    Click this button to post a comment to this story
    The options below will change how the comments display
    Check box to change your default comment view
    The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
    There is Much More to the Story Than You Know
    by Anonymous on Friday May 06 2005, @08:40AM (#15123)
    There is Much More to the Story Than You Know

    The new DNS quietly being deployed in North
    America re-launches some of the 2-letter TLDs.
    The U.S. Government has secretly cut a deal with
    ICANN to roll out the 50 States and if necessary
    invoke M&M Domain over any existng cyber-squatters
    such as .DE who has Delaware, "the First State".

    M&M Domain is part of a new course being taught to
    all 3rd graders in the U.S. It teaches them that
    what is theirs is theirs and what is yours is
    theirs. They take your M&Ms and eat them first.
    ICANN has taught them well and is used for the
    course materials.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Moving land masses
    by fnord ({groy2k} {at} {yahoo.com}) on Friday May 06 2005, @11:21AM (#15125)
    User #2810 Info
    Or is that Atlas (Van Lines) Shrugged? Moving a tiny series of islands is one thing. Perhaps they broke loose and floated over, must be that global warming thingie going critical. But I gotta tell ya that being aboard whilst Canada (the world's largest country) was apparently teleported to Europe was a real rush. I know the internet was supposed to both shrink the world and make everything move more quickly, but this is rediculous.

    Yup, Canada (.ca) is a full member of the Council of European TLD Registries (CENTR [centr.org]). Eeeyeeeww, does that mean we have to join the .eu? So are some of those apparently rootless (as in wandering, not as in rootzone) small southern island nations. And I'd like to hear the story of how the likes of Afghanistan (.af) got there, sorry, here.

    I don't mean to make light of Kieren McCarthy's article, he has a long history of perceptively reporting on ICANN, and now does so again, indeed the CENTR membership is more widespread than its name implies (but which its bylaws allow) which underlines one of his points. I'm only pointing out, as I did here [icannwatch.org] regarding his recent related article, that it isn't just ICANN that can seem bizarre, even byzantine, to outsiders, such as Paul Kane being administrator for more than one ccTLD when IANA requires a resident administrator, including two in the South Atlantic and another in the Indian Ocean, unless they're on the move too. Oh, I see they have arrived. I guess that is my point, to the end user there seems little logic (and much silliness) to most of this, and the current pissing contest will probably have a negative tricledown effect no matter what happens.

    Thankfully, I've yet to see Antarctica come floating in or we're in real trouble (.aq, see what I mean, why does that exist as a country code, it shouldn't have one both because it has no native population and because it is a continent) come floating in or we're in real trouble. It's offtopic, but to be less flippant for a moment, if you care about the real world please read this [williamcalvin.com] Atlantic Monthly article regarding the North Atlantic current suddenly shutting down due to global warming. It has done so before and the results would (will, given our current course, perhaps within the decade) be catastrophic. An extended successful DoS attack on the rootservers would pale in comparison and no one will be safe even if they own all of the internet. -g

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Badly misisng the mark
    by dpf (dpf@ihug.co.nz) on Friday May 06 2005, @12:54PM (#15126)
    User #2770 Info | http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/
    I love The Register's stories, and especially those on ICANN. However this one is seriously astray.

    It is true that ICANN rules allocate territories and colonies to the region of their "parents" rather than to the region they are physically located in. But this is not a new rule which was introduced ad hoc. It has been that way for over half a decade since July 2000. And it is an ICANN policy, not a ccNSO policy. The suggestion that the ccNSO has somehow made up this rule is incredibly offensive to those who are members.

    I actually disagree with the policy, but it is unfair to suggest it was introduced just to allow the ccNSO to be formed. The labelling of it as a "brand new rule" is quite false.

    I would also query the statement that "five-sixths" are refusing to join. Around half the ccTLDs just do not participate in global issues at all in any way. Have never posted on a list, attended a meeting. It is certainly true however that most of Europe have made a conscious decision not to join, and this does affect the credibility of the ccNSO.

    The list of what changes are wanted, is somewhat misleading. If you ask current ccNSO members (I am with .nz which is a member) about that wishlist, and they would say we already have all these things. The debate has been largely a legalistic one about minor enhancements in the bylaws to remove perceived ambuigituy. There is no major policy difference between current members and non-members about what the powers of the ccNSO should be. Absolutely no-one at all has suggested ccNSO policies would bind non members for example. It is a red herring.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    "Respondent is located only seventeen miles from"
    by Anonymous on Saturday May 07 2005, @03:45AM (#15137)
    Complainant additionally argues that Respondentís registration of the domain name, which is identical to Complainantís well-known mark, suggests that Respondent knew of Complainantís rights in the MAGIC KINGDOM mark. Additionally, Complainant asserts that Complainantís trademark registration for the MAGIC KINGDOM mark on the Principal Register of the United States Patent and Trademark Office gave Respondent constructive notice of the mark. Furthermore, the domain nameís WHOIS information indicates that Respondent is located only seventeen miles from Complainantís famous Walt Disney World Resortís MAGIC KINGDOM theme park. Thus, the Panel finds that Respondent chose the disputed domain name based on the distinctive and well-known qualities of Complainantís mark, which evidences bad faith registration and use
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    RIRs Spending Millions on Job Security Road Show
    by Anonymous on Monday May 09 2005, @03:49PM (#15165)
    RIRs Spending Millions on Job Security Road Show

    RIRs have been selling for $2,500 per year what
    should have been FREE from day one. They are now
    speding millions on a huge Job Security Road Show
    to attempt to protect their cash-cow operations.

    It is ironic that RIRs would point out that
    some people are *just now realizing* that there
    is big money to be made, doing largely nothing,
    via the Internet.

    http://www.circleid.com/article/1078_ 0_1_0_C/
    "many parts of the world are only recently coming to appreciate the significant role of the Internet in the broader context of enablers of national wealth."

    Via education, all parts of the world can come
    to understand that a very small number of people
    have gamed the protocol, DNS and IP address
    resource allocation arenas for their own benefit
    and profit, under non-profit sham operations.
    An educated population represents true "national
    wealth". With education they can avoid being
    the prey of the RIRs.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    .RIR SuperState Plan Leaks From the Oval Office
    by Anonymous on Tuesday May 10 2005, @07:30AM (#15167)
    .RIR has been selected as the official TLD for Regional Registries.

    The 48 States are divided into 16 SuperStates,
    which are treated like countries, with their own
    elected officials, capitals, navies and economies.

    Each of the SuperStates has their own initial
    IP allocation to get them started.

    224/8 Sep 81 IANA - Multicast - .DE.MD.VA.
    225/8 Sep 81 IANA - Multicast
    226/8 Sep 81 IANA - Multicast
    227/8 Sep 81 IANA - Multicast
    228/8 Sep 81 IANA - Multicast
    229/8 Sep 81 IANA - Multicast
    230/8 Sep 81 IANA - Multicast - .FL.GA.AL.
    231/8 Sep 81 IANA - Multicast
    232/8 Sep 81 IANA - Multicast
    233/8 Sep 81 IANA - Multicast
    234/8 Sep 81 IANA - Multicast - .WI.IL.MI.
    235/8 Sep 81 IANA - Multicast
    236/8 Sep 81 IANA - Multicast
    237/8 Sep 81 IANA - Multicast
    238/8 Sep 81 IANA - Multicast
    239/8 Sep 81 IANA - Multicast - .NV.AZ.CA.

    The multicast code-bloat has of course been
    removed from the operating system software.

    Less is more. Less States, more Countries.

    Criticize by Creating

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    As Predicted NRO.NET to Become Another Cash Cow
    by Anonymous on Wednesday May 11 2005, @02:24PM (#15189)
    As Predicted NRO.NET to Become Another Cash Cow


    6 - NRO Incorporation.

    RP. ARIN Board is agreed to be incorporated in Montevideo

    RE. Next thursday I will have a meeting with LACNIC board I assume will be agreed.

    PW. Agree in principle. Need to review the document

    AA - Also need to review the document of incorporation

    RP send back to the list for further revision.

    RE should we wait the comments APNIC and AFRINIC.

    AP propose wait for LACNIC board meeting. And be ok in Uruguay. If all ok. Send documentation to legal team for reviewing.

    NRO-EC 05-16 050208
    RP. Will resend last version of incorporation document to EC list

    Three people, then four, then forty.
    What better place to train new third-world
    cyberspace dictators ? Havana Cuba

    NRO Exective Council Meetings


    08 February 2005, Teleconference
    02 February 2005, Teleconference


    3 December 2004
    22 October 2004, Teleconference
    2 September 2004, Fiji
    31 August 2004, Teleconference
    29 July 2004, Teleconference
    6 June 2004, Teleconference
    4 May 2004, Amsterdam, the Netherlands
    29 March 2004, Montevideo, Uruguay
    3 March 2004, Rome, Italy


    18/19 November 2003, Havana, Cuba
    10 December 2003, Geneva, Switzerlan
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    .MT.WA.ID and http://www.Seattle.WA or .GOV ?
    by Anonymous on Thursday May 12 2005, @04:56AM (#15207)
    12 41     Montana     November 8, 1889
    12 42     Washington     November 11, 1889
    12 43     Idaho     July 3, 1890


    Seattle.gov - the official site of the City of Seattle - Home Page
    Home Page of the Official Web Site of the City of Seattle -- Seattle Public Access Network.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]

    Search ICANNWatch.org:

    Privacy Policy: We will not knowingly give out your personal data -- other than identifying your postings in the way you direct by setting your configuration options -- without a court order. All logos and trademarks in this site are property of their respective owner. The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 by ICANNWatch.Org. This web site was made with Slashcode, a web portal system written in perl. Slashcode is Free Software released under the GNU/GPL license.
    You can syndicate our headlines in .rdf, .rss, or .xml. Domain registration services donated by DomainRegistry.com