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    Re: VeriSign embarks on a Multilingual Strategy
    by PeterBarron (pebarron@hotmail.com) on Wednesday June 12 2002, @05:55AM (#7114)
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    My God!

    Verisign is doing for IDN what New.net tried to do for new TLDs!

    How is this any different?!

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    Re: VeriSign embarks on a Multilingual Strategy
    by Grumpy on Thursday June 13 2002, @05:06AM (#7149)
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    Very interesting report from ComputerWire (via The Register), alleging that Verisign's plug-in actually resolves IDNs as 3LDs within "mltbd.net" - another domain conveniently registered to VGRS.

    If the report's accurate, does that mean that Verisign's solution IS identical to New.Net?

    - Grumpy
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    Re: VeriSign embarks on a Multilingual Strategy
    by PeterBarron (pebarron@hotmail.com) on Wednesday June 12 2002, @06:48AM (#7122)
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    You must be kidding. How does the fact that New.net claimed that it was running TLDs in an alt root make it any different? Your logic is seriously flawed.

    New.net required a plugin to see their content regardless of source. Verisign requires a plugin to see their content, regardless of source.

    In both cases, what's being sold is an addition or enhancement to the DNS that requires a plugin. In both cases, the data is stored in the DNS. In the case of New.net, in a 4th level domain. In the case of Verisign, in a newly-purchased 2nd level domain. But in both cases, you need special software to make use of it.

    They are absolutely identical.

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    Dueling plugins
    by Undecided on Wednesday June 12 2002, @01:31PM (#7133)
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    I was just going to say that, myself. There already have been complaints about the new.net plugin disabling (or being disabled by) similar plugins (like the RealNames plugin). The Versigin client almost certainly will cause problems for New.Net, and vice versa.

    All of the "alternate naming" plugins work the same way: They hijack Internet Explorer's "Search from address bar" (which normally sends unresolvable type-ins to MSN) so that it sends type-ins to the plugin's company. When a user installs more than one alternate-naming plugin, it's usually the most-recently installed plugin that's going to end up controlling the address bar.

    I hate to say it, but I think new.net is currently winning the "Most Plugin Installed" contest. I say this because a lot of non-NewNet webmasters have started seeing a small traffic stream from New.Net's search engine, Quick. (It includes non-NewNet domains in its results.)

    I think Verisign might have enough influence to give New.Net a run for the money, though. It all depend which is a more popular idea: new TLDs or multilingual TLDs. I expect there will be a lot of complaints about dueling plugins in the near future.

    I wonder what they're saying about this in the new.net forums?
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    by PeterBarron (pebarron@hotmail.com) on Wednesday June 12 2002, @04:59PM (#7137)
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    Yes, but SHOULD they do this?

    It's not clear to me that they should. Especially after making such a to-do about New.net's identical solution.

    If ICANN and others aren't hypocritical, they will complain about this just as loudly as they did when New.net introduced their plug-in.

    Then again, I don't expect that to happen. ICANN is about as hypocritical an organisation as there is.

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