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    From: Steve Crocker
    by Anonymous on Sunday April 17 2005, @11:21PM (#14926)
    From: Steve Crocker
    "I'm not sure where these history questions come from. The initial sequence for the Arpanet is documented pretty thoroughly. The first four nodes were UCLA(1), SRI(2), UCSB(3) and Utah(4). They were installed approximately one month apart starting Sept 1, 1969. (The exact installation dates may have varied slightly.)

    Doug Engelbart ran the lab at SRI. Vint, Jon and I were all at UCLA working in Len Kleinrock's lab. Larry Roberts was the director of the Information Processing Techniques Office at ARPA. He was the sponsor of the network, which means he paid for it and oversaw the contracts. BBN built the IMPs, which was their name for what we would now call routers.

    Over the next few years we all moved around. I went to ARPA. Vint went to Stanford University. Jon went to work at MITRE in the Washington DC area and then moved back to California to work for Engelbart at SRI. I finished at ARPA -- by then renamed to DARPA -- and went to USC-ISI. Jon left SRI and came down to USC-ISI in a different group and stayed there until he passed away. Vint left Stanford and came to DARPA. Etc."

    What people can not seem to comprehend is that
    having Orville and Wilbur Wright at NASA, trying
    to launch the next space shuttle makes no sense.
    Their skills are out of date. They just get in
    the way. Their policies do not get the job done.

    Along another path, people also do not consider
    that the average netizen views "the .NET" as
    a conceptual net that floats well above the IP
    and TCP|UDP layers. They view it as a service.
    Vinton Cerf, Jon Postel and Steve Crocker NEVER
    had any visions of how those services worked.
    For Vinton Cerf to now claim that he was doing
    VOIP in 1975 is a major lie. When Postel was
    removed, people claimed he was the father of the
    web. Jon Postel hated HTML. He was stuck in an
    ASCII world. ICANN is still attempting to clean
    up after him and his kook-ball policies.
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