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    This Paper Deserves Further Attention
    by Richard_Henderson on Wednesday April 06 2005, @05:35AM (#14820)
    User #3269 Info | http://www.atlarge.org/
    I think Milton Mueller and Hans Klein's paper "What to do about ICANN" is really well-informed and makes balanced suggestions which deserve serious attention.

    I guess the question is - how to achieve their adoption.

    Again and again, I think the paper homes in on central issues.

    The irony is that although ICANN has resisted what the paper refers to as 'democratisation' (indeed, it reversed the process in 2002), if adopted, this could significantly strengthen ICANN's own credibility. It is extraordinary that ICANN does not move in these directions at a time when its own legitimacy (as a quango of the Department of Commerce of a single nation) is often called into question. Building legitimacy based on global and societal representation, rather than intra-national and governmental controls, could create a model which protects the Internet / DNS functions from too much political interference and allows for genuine self-determination by multiple stakeholders/constituencies.

    I also like the model of a competitive yet shared role for ICANN and, say, ITU. After all, ICANN itself was launched in part with a view to promoting competition. Why should not ICANN itself not be part of a wider competitive market with more choice.

    I accept that it would still be possible for ICANN to assert a role by itself which could have sufficient credibility if - and only if - it recognised that its credibility needs to be based on accountability and global legitimacy. In short, it needs to put registrants and internet users at the heart of its processes, and should consider the restoration of global At Large elections to a significant number of positions on the ICANN Board.

    Otherwise, pressure for alternative structures will mount.

    I commend "What to do about ICANN" for further study and consideration.

    I hope this gets plenty of attention from all parties.

    With kind regards,

    Richard Henderson

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    What to do about ICANN ? Nothing...It Will Implode
    by Anonymous on Wednesday April 06 2005, @07:18AM (#14821)
    As evidenced by Milton Mueller's book, "Ruling
    the Root". Milton Mueller is certainly NOT an
    expert on DNS or Internet Governance.

    As additional evidence, his recent comments and
    complete lack of knowledge about how the IP
    layer comes into play in the VOIP arena further
    illustrates he is NOT an expert.

    Also, his lack of understanding of the role of
    the ethical and prestigious IEEE in future matters
    further makes the point, he is NOT an expert.

    Milton Mueller has worked hard to distract the
    third-world with nonsense and with proposed
    policies that would do great harm to large
    segments of the Internet population. He risks
    the majority in favor of the minorities he can
    whip into a frenzy, armed with no knowledge of
    their subject matter and determined to make some
    difference. He censors messages to those people
    to make sure they are not educated. They look
    like fools when they appear in open combat with
    the ISOC insiders and the ISOC insiders eat
    their lunch and mow them down in the streets
    with ease. That has helped ICANN. That has helped
    Verisign. They thrive on the chaos and the
    poor leadership. They laugh all the way to the

    Follow the money, it tells a completely different
    story from the book "Ruling the Root".
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    What to do about ICANN ? Watch the Stage Play
    by Anonymous on Wednesday April 06 2005, @07:33AM (#14823)
    ICANN chairman Vint Cerf said here at the organization's meeting in Argentina that Telcordia has already "agreed the assessment [of Denic] had an error", and corrected the report accordingly. But this did not change the ranking of the five bids, he said.

    Telcordia will be asked to look at Sentan's objections too. While not addressing the complaints directly or giving any weight to their accuracy, Cerf suggested that the true winner will not be known until the ICANN board makes a choice.

    "The concerns will be addressed for resolution to Telcordia," Cerf said at a press conference yesterday. "The ICANN board will have the ultimate decision...The board could decide to negotiate with the second-placed candidate."
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    "Concerns about unilateralism by the US"
    by Anonymous on Wednesday April 06 2005, @10:21AM (#14828)
    "Concerns about unilateralism by the US Government in its control of the DNS root and its supervision of ICANN."

    This is nonsense. The "US Government" has been
    largely clueless with respect to the Internet
    and ICANN. The ISOC insiders and the at-large
    digerati (Dyson, et. al.) have run the US
    Government in circles and have created their
    own governance structures which are a joke.
    Those structures are very soviet-mafia-like
    which is no surprise considering the ties of
    the insiders to socialist/communist regimes.
    The US Government would never create such
    structures. Left-wing liberal academics would
    to place themselves into the center of the
    action with little concern for .NET users.

    As for control of the "DNS root", .NET users
    now have options and simply need to move to
    those. If they continue to lock themselves in
    the ISOC/ICANN society and remain uneducated
    and clueless, they will be the prey of the
    internet-mafia digerati.

    As for "supervision of ICANN", there has been
    very little supervision from anyone, not even
    the ICANN Board or the Staff. Most of the
    supervision comes from the external attorneys
    that have lived off of the ICANN cash-cow. The
    US Government has no clue what ICANN does, if
    they did, ICANN would certainly be different
    and a little closer to the center of the fairness
    circle. ICANN is not even on the target, much
    less close to the center. This is just a
    continuation of the Jon Postel dictatorship by
    his high-school cronies.

    The opening statement could read that there are
    concerns about the US Marketplace dominance of
    the ICANN scene and the evolution of the consumer
    root. Academic solutions to hold the US back
    while the rest of the world catches up do not
    work. Much of the world has no bandwidth and
    never will. The laws of physics prevent that.
    The US Marketplace has to move forward, and will.
    Note the recent comments from the CEO of Cisco.

    BTW, Is there a .LAN TLD in Cisco's products ?
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    Watch as ICANN Implodes With More Distractions
    by Anonymous on Wednesday April 06 2005, @02:12PM (#14830)
    The current ICANN meeting reaches a new low
    in useful content and a new high in hype. That
    is one of the common signs of implosion. Another
    sign is grasping at straws with continual
    requests for comments from a population that
    does not respond. ICANN exists in its own vacuum.

    Proposed Review Procedure for ASO Policy Proposals - Public Comment Forum
    6 April 2005

    Don't tell the ICANN Staff, they are having a
    good time, make a lot of money doing nothing,
    and will not have any impact as long as they
    stay in their small closed circle chasing each
    other's tails. At least it looks like the .PRO
    crowd is finally supplying some hot chicks.
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