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    FCC IP Address Block Registrations
    by Anonymous on Friday December 10 2004, @08:35PM (#14543)
    The Wireless Internet technology has helped to
    show people how to **properly** manage the .NET.
    They are working closely with the FCC to make
    sure that IP Address Blocks are properly
    documented with the FCC, to help ensure routing
    stability. Private RIR registrations mean nothing.

    ICANN and the academic (ISOC) socialists, with
    their corrupt RIR structure, have shown the world
    (and especially Americans) how NOT to allocate
    Internet resources. Their soviet state approach
    does not work and results in non-democratic,
    non-elected insiders gaming the system.

    Educated U.S. Government officials now see more
    clearly how to protect Americans from ICANN and
    the ISOC. Fortunately, there are plenty of
    agencies, like the FCC, to help provide that
    support. The new head of the U.S. DOC is also
    from Cuba, he understands how to deal with a
    corrupt dictatorship regime like ICANN.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    The New ICANN Mantra is "We Are Private" Na-Na-Na
    by Anonymous on Friday December 10 2004, @08:47PM (#14544)
    The New ICANN Mantra is "We Are Private" Na-Na-Na

    Now that ICANN has a huge budget and cash-flow
    from all sorts of suckers, they of course are
    now going to thumb their Aussie noses at the
    U.S. Government and claim they are private and
    international, etc. The U.S. Government is of
    course going to properly say, "we could not care
    less what ICANN does". [ICANN is irrelevant]

    >>PAUL TWOMEY: Thank you, Vint.
    Well, clearly, there's limitations upon what ICANN staff or ICANN board can say on behalf of another party.
    And as a CEO, as a member of ICANN, and as an Australian, I would be the last person to speak on behalf of the United States government.
    But let their own words speak for themselves.
    Mike Gallagher, the assistant secretary of commerce and the head of the NTIA, in a series of interviews in August, September of this year, unfortunately, in some respects, interviews given with Washington-based journals, so it didn't get reported as widely as it should have, made two statements, I think, that were very interesting.
    First of all, he made a very clear statement that he was pleased with ICANN's progression against the MOU milestones, recognized that we were ahead, and basically he used the phrase "it is crunch time for ICANN."
    I actually had to have that translated from American into Australian.
    And I understand that to be that this was -- you know, this was now the time where everything was coming to conclusion and it was a positive phrase.
    But he very much pointed out that he saw the progression.
    The second thing he made very clear, and not only did he say it was a case of himself, but also Ted Cassinger, the deputy secretary, Sam bottinGER, secretary, a series of people in the U.S. executive, were firm of the perspective that when the MOU was completed, that ICANN was to be independent to the United States government and he exhorted again their independence and made the point that the United States did not consider it was in this business.
    The second thing he said in a related interview not long after was an interesting comment where he actually, when asked the question what was his position about where ICANN should be based or its jurisdiction, or its place of incorporation, his comments were that after the conclusion of the MOU in 2006, he didn't have a perspective on it and that the USG didn't care.
    So I think there were two fairly clear statements of policy intent by senior administration figures in the bush administration about their intent about the MOU is as it says it is.
    It comes to a completion.
    Then ICANN is independent and they don't have a perspective where it should be based.
    As far as the second set of questions are concerning zone file issues, et cetera, they are clearly issues of ongoing discussion between ourselves and commerce as we prepare towards the completion of these obligations, and sits within that milestone framework.
    That's probably the most I can say at the moment.
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    AAAA DNS Records Now Carry Random Numbers
    by Anonymous on Friday December 10 2004, @09:06PM (#14545)
    AAAA DNS Records Now Carry Random Numbers

    "He also stressed that industry needs to ensure that communications technologies have built-in security protections."

    Many of the new Internet technology innovations
    are coming from the proven Banking Industry.
    For years, the Banking Industry has developed
    techniques for helping to ensure that transactions
    are secure, private, etc. One way to do that is
    with encryption but another way is with chaos
    and randomness, where only the legitimate parties
    can deduce the correct results from the chaos.

    The 128-bit DNS AAAA (quad-A) Records are ideal
    for sending a large random number along with
    the existing A Records. Old systems just ignore
    the AAAA Records, more modern systems can store
    the 128-bit binary value and use it in end-to-end
    transactions. When appended to time-of-day values
    the random value can be used to provide sub-second
    distinctions to help keep transactions unique.
    The 128-bit values can also be used by two parties
    when contacting a common third party, as a key
    to show they queried the same DNS system.

    Multiple A Records are of course used to expand
    the addressing beyond 32-bits. The AAAA Records
    are used to enhance the security and stability
    of the connections and transactions.
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    ICANNites Do Not Understand What Cerf is Messaging
    by Anonymous on Friday December 10 2004, @11:10PM (#14546)
    It is clear from the ICANN meeting in Cape Town
    that ICANNites do not understand what Vinton
    Cerf is trying to tell them, without telling

    It is very much like a parent trying to explain
    to a 16 year old girl, how to avoid getting pregnant. If danger appears on the horizon the
    parents can impose rules, that may make no
    sense to the girl, but achieve the parent's
    goal. As an example, the parents can lock the
    girl in her room and surround the house with
    guards. Both actions have nothing to do with the
    physical activities involved in getting pregnant.
    The parent's actions make sure the girl does
    not have "the opportunity to get pregnant".

    Vinton Cerf is attempting to make sure that
    ICANN has no opportunity to lose any of the
    funding they already have. In doing that, he of
    course is taking ICANN down a road where they
    become more irrelevant. Because Cerf's major
    background has been as a DARPA funding manager,
    he of course looks at the cash-flow as the major
    measure of success. With money coming in, he
    can fund people to come to meetings to listen
    to his pontifications. That is a short-term
    solution, the world will route around him, just
    like the daughter will eventually move out of
    the house.

    It is all about control. He does not trust
    ICANN to have self-control. It is just like the
    parents who do not take the path of educating
    their child and then trusting their child.
    Instead, they isolate and suffocate their child.
    They do not look at what that does to the child.
    They are narrow-minded, they want to make sure
    their child does not get pregnant. Their intentions
    may be good, but their result produces a social

    Vinton Cerf is a narrow-minded engineer who
    spends most of his time on his image. He wants
    to make sure ICANN's image matches up with some
    fantasy image he has of an international
    organization like the Olympic Committee or the
    U.N. He completely forgets (or does not know)
    that the Internet fits more into the entertainment
    industry, as opposed to the international government industry. Every time someone attempted
    to lighten ICANN up [and open it up] at Cape Town,
    Cerf potificated with one of his ominous warnings
    about breaking the net, without any technical
    challenge from anyone or without any valid
    technical basis for his warnings.

    He is like the parent who does nothing but
    warn their daughter, each time she tries to
    do anything. Eventually, she moves out of the
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    "ultimately, the Wild West must give way"
    by Anonymous on Sunday December 12 2004, @04:05AM (#14550)
    "ultimately, the Wild West must give way to governance and control"

    >>VINT CERF: Vanda, I can hardly wait to see how this turns out.
    And we're about to find out.
    We are -- in fact have completed the work of this board.
    We've gone through all of the actions and they've been duly taken.
    So I will formally adjourn this meeting.
    But don't get up out of the room yet, because we need to convene the new board.
    So I'm going to ask that Ivan and Tricia please take their seats now in their new venue, and I would ask that Joichi Ito and Vanda please come take a seat up here on the stage.
    And what we will do, this is a kind of organizational meeting of the new board.
    And at the organizational meeting, it is our responsibility to elect officers and to populate the various committees that carry out the work of the board.
    I'm also going to ask Hagen Hultzsch to serve as chairman pro tem of the newly-seated board and ask that he carry out the process for election of the board chairman.
    So, Hagen, I turn this over to you.
    >>HAGEN HULTZSCH: Thank you, Vint.
    It is the mission of the board governance committee to recommend to the board the chairman of the board.
    And the motion here is that Vint Cerf should be elected as chairman of the board to serve at the pleasure of the board and in accordance with the bylaws of the corporation and shall hold such office until resignation, removal, or other disqualification from service or until his successor shall be elected and qualified.
    That is the motion.
    Is there a second?
    Veni seconds.
    So I ask you for your vote.
    Please raise your hand if you are in favor of that vote.
    One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten -- 11.
    Congratulations, Vint.
    And I turn it over to you
    >>VINT CERF: Thank you very much, Hagen.
    I thank my fellow board members.
    I would point out to you that one of the reasons for disqualification for service is insanity.
    And it's conceivable that I have just fulfilled that qualification, having accepted this election again.
    My task as the chairman of the incoming board, then, is to also carry out the rest of the organizational actions.
    So we now want to put into nomination the position of vice-chairman.
    The board governance committee has recommended that Alejandro Pisanty be elected vice-chairman of the board.
    And the resolution reads that Alejandro Pisanty is elected as vice-chairman of the board to serve at the pleasure of the board and in accordance with the bylaws of the corporation, and shall hold office until his resignation, removal, or other disqualification from service or until his successor shall be elected and qualified.
    So I place this resolution on the table and I ask for a second.
    I see Hualin Qian raised his hand.
    If -- is there any discussion of this resolution?
    All those in favor, please raise your hand.
    One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten -- 11 -- whoops.
    Let's do that one more time.
    One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten -- 11.
    Thank you.
    That's unanimous.
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    "place your contributions on the table"
    by Anonymous on Sunday December 12 2004, @04:10AM (#14551)
    >>VINT CERF: So, ladies and gentlemen, we have now come to the conclusion of the organizational board meeting.
    I will adjourn it -- I'm sorry.
    Is there -- Paul?
    I will adjourn this meeting and invite all of you to participate in the Mar Del Plata event coming up in April of 2005.
    I hope you'll take some time, if you have it, to visit in the Cape Town region and enjoy some of its pleasures, particularly the wine country in STElLEnBOSCH and surrounding areas.
    I thank all of you for your patience and for your support and for your contributions during this long week of work.
    I'm very, very pleased to see the progress that ICANN is making, and I'm also very conscious of the amount of work before us still to be done during 2005.
    I'm sure all of you will place your contributions on the table to help us make that progress.
    Meeting is adjourned.
    See you all in Mar Del Plata.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    "it wasn't clear what the rationale was"
    by Anonymous on Sunday December 12 2004, @07:33AM (#14552)
    "it wasn't clear what the rationale was"

    >>VINT CERF: And I suspect given the opportunity you'll say it again.
    Let me respond specifically to an example of a concern. This is in the gTLD space in general.
    I want to go on record as saying, because I said it in another session a couple of days ago, that I am no longer sure that I have a strong understanding of why I would be motivated to create a new TLD.
    I'd like to have a much better philosophical basis for making that decision than I feel I have right now.
    For many, many years we didn't create any new ones. And it wasn't because we didn't have an apparatus for doing it. It was because it wasn't clear what the rationale was for creating new TLDs.
    Second issue. If we pick the wrong philosophical basis and we try to codify that and we end up creating so many TLDs that we actually create a problem with the domain name system, we have a problem.
    The system was designed to be pretty hierarchical. Creation of new TLDs expands the top-level hierarchy. And I only raise this not to suggest to you that I'll stand up and say we shouldn't have any more new TLDs at all. I'm just suggesting that having a solid philosophical basis that doesn't lead to a serious problem later will make me a lot more comfortable than I am right now, which is why the gTLD process, this whole discussion about criteria and everything else, is so important. That's why the white papers will be very helpful.

    "it wasn't clear what the rationale was"
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    Why Do You Think They Call It Canadian Bacon ?
    by Anonymous on Monday December 13 2004, @12:36AM (#14554)
    Why Do You Think They Call It Canadian Bacon ?

    You have not seen ISOC/ICANN Pork Spending yet.

    Check out that new ICANN office building in Ottawa.

    "By bylaw, my budget is self-determined and is sanctioned by the Board of Directors, ensuring that there are adequate resources for me so that I, as an independent officer can meet the goals necessary to discharge my obligations under bylaw 5.
    Once again, this budgeting process separate and apart from the ICANN administration provides the independence required by my office.
    My primary work site will not be located with ICANN, although there will be frequent contact with both the Marina del Rey and Brussels offices to reference stacks and files under my jurisdiction. This will also appLy to all other ICANN offices as they open around the globe. This further demonstrates independence."

    The Cows Want the 75 Cents to be Larger

    Dear Sirs:

    We wish to make a comment regarding the interlocking issues of the portion of the .net fee that goes to ICANN and the issue of registry equivalence.

    While Section 4 of the .net RFP talks of a $0.75 fee payable to ICANN for each registration year it does not identify whether this is an absolute number or merely a minimum.

    We would expect some bidders to wish to submit bids with fees to ICANN well in excess of $0.75. Our concern with this would be the unclear concept of "registry equivalency".

    In our view "registry equivalency", while desirable, is made very difficult due to the different histories of each of the various tlds. We believe that any submission for the .net registry should be explicitly encouraged to provide amounts in excess of $0.75 per registration year. This could be accomplished by simply changing the wording in the relevant section(s) to read "no less than $0.75".

    Respectfully submitted,

    Elliot Noss
    CEO, Tucows Inc.

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    I think ICANN...I think ICANN
    by Anonymous on Monday December 13 2004, @02:16AM (#14557)
    Dec 11 17:20:48 Joi's like the little engine that could! I think ICANN, I think ICANN... heh.
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