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    Re:Not logic - but intellectual vacuity
    by gpmgroup on Monday November 08 2004, @10:52AM (#14430)
    User #3785 Info | http://www.gpmgroup.com/
    As you know - most companies share the same words with others.

    The solution is “branding”

    If everybody was called smith then smith.com would be very valuable, but it does not naturally follow that .smith would be a solution, as all this would do is shift the problem to the right a little.

    The only other way your proposal can work would be to flip the item or object classification to the right. As in smith.paul, smith.dan, smith.gary

    Surely a simpler, cheaper, more manageable and more memorable solution is paulsmith.com dansmith.com and garysmith.com?

    With regards trademarks and preventing overreaching how does the creation of new gTLDs solve anything to do with trademarks? Surely this is a matter for politicians and the courts not for DNS design?

    Your proposal for .reg a trademark specific gTLD is perhaps the exception. Has anybody ever offered funding for such a proposal to ICANN?

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    Re:Not logic - but intellectual vacuity by gpmgroup
    Re:Not logic - but intellectual vacuity
    by WIPOorgUK on Tuesday November 09 2004, @01:13AM (#14431)
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    On re-reading my post, I hope you understood response was not meant to cause offence.

    It was for the assertion that "all I have to remember is the company name of the website I am searching for, then .com or .co.uk".

    This is the corporate ideal - what they want you to think - the big guy wins.

    So those with more "branding" bucks can say "screw you".

    "it does not naturally follow that .smith would be a solution"

    I have never said it could - just that name.class.area.reg would be.

    "With regards trademarks and preventing overreaching how does the creation of new gTLDs solve anything to do with trademarks? Surely this is a matter for politicians and the courts not for DNS design?"

    New gTLDs will not specifically prevent corrupt corporations attempting overreach.

    New restricted TLDs would help alleviate trademark problems. For example nissan.car would enable Uzi Nissan to use his nissan.com domain for his computer business.

    Unrestricted open gTLDs would allow unregistered trademark holders and public the chance to get the domain they want.

    I do not go for this confusion on TLDs - whom could not tell the difference between .web and .car?

    A fact for you - a directory system is essential for all trademarks (registered and unregistered) - if you really want people to easily find them.

    We do not have that - we just have search engines that simply comb the Internet for matching words.

    "Your proposal for .reg a trademark specific gTLD is perhaps the exception."

    How kind and insightful of you to notice :-)

    "Has anybody ever offered funding for such a proposal to ICANN?"

    Let me see - this would mean somebody admitting that the only way to avoid confusion with ordinary domain names is to tell people - correct?

    I cannot see anybody in big business that honest - can you?
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