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    (Belated) Response to Tim Berners-Lee on New TLDs | Log in/Create an Account | Top | 17 comments | Search Discussion
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    Pointer to my own response from May of this year..
    by KarlAuerbach on Tuesday November 02 2004, @04:21AM (#14410)
    User #3243 Info | http://www.cavebear.com/
    Here's a pointer to my own comments on the original note - Techies wanna do policy [cavebear.com]

    In that note I come to the conclusion that many technologists look fondly back to some imagined era of halcyon bliss on the internet. Some of those who once lept past the status quo and invented are now using technical arguments, often faux-technical arguments, to restrain those who which to leap past today's status quo and innovate further.

    We know fully well that the domain name system can support litterally millions of top level domains. So even an approach that is conservative upon conservative would allow one new TLD per week. At that rate it would take thousands of years to get to what we know today are technically viable numbers of TLDs.

    Between aging technologists (myself included) and those (such as the intellectual property industry) who have perceived a short-term economic interest in internet stagnation there are mighty forces linked up against not only the free interplay of economic forces on the net but also against the development of any new technology unless that technology is rendered inert, sterile, and unlikely to contain innovative forces to disturb the status quo.
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    From http://joi.ito.com
    by Anonymous on Tuesday November 02 2004, @09:44AM (#14413)
    The ISOC Taliban Religious Zealots Define Reality

    There are 52 members of the ISOC Taliban. They are
    religious zealots. They have spent years defining
    reality for netizens. People with more technical
    skills and in some cases more historical time on
    the net are able to see right thru their charades.
    The average netizen does not have the time or
    experience to see (understand) what has been going
    on. Many humans also do not care. They have better
    things to do. Their reality consists of meat-space
    challenges, like feeding their children.

    One could go thru all 52 of the ISOC Taliban
    Religious Zealots and explain in great detail the
    last 30 years of their life on the net. There
    are common patterns that emerge. One of the most
    important common traits is their willingness to
    tell "The Big Lie" to defend their party line,
    no matter how far from the truth they have to
    stray. They do not view it as a lie, they view
    it as reality. They collectively define the
    reality and then all defend that reality no
    matter how untrue. Their collective actions
    DEFINE them as a group. They really believe their
    own lies. They also derive pleasure from seeing
    the masses attempt to challenge their aristocracy.

    Since they are well-funded by the masses, they
    have an unlimited ability to travel to any
    venue to sit and pontificate "the Big Lie".
    There is an unlimited number of people willing
    to also travel to *watch* the deliberations.
    The funding and the spectators combine to convince
    the ISOC Taliban Religious Zealots that the
    reality they have defined is also accepted by
    the masses. They label that consensus. They label
    themselves to be "the community" and attempt to
    claim the masses are part of their closed little
    club.

    People occasionaly note that one of the main
    features of America is a separation of Church
    and State. That is not possible with the ISOC
    Taliban Religious Zealots. They are cut from the
    same cloth that people see blanketing the Middle
    East. It is ironic that Americans spend time and
    resources making sure the Middle East does not
    move to their soil, yet, their Internet is ruled
    by the same style religious zealots. It is not
    ruled by truth and free market forces.

    Until future generations become educated and
    enlightened with past historical examples of how
    the ISOC Taliban Religious Zealots operate,
    nothing will change. You are forced to live in
    the reality defined by 52 people who have no
    intention of changing that reality. It is not in
    their best interest to change that reality. If
    you change "The Big Lie" to the truth, they
    cease to exist. You can continue to be their
    prey or you can walk away. The choice is yours.
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    Now it is just "The ICANN Community"
    by Anonymous on Tuesday November 02 2004, @09:55AM (#14414)
    Paul Twomey appears to be seeing the light.
    His checks which are sent to his off-shore
    tax haven come from "The ICANN Community".
    He is going to work out a strategic plan to
    make sure he is funded for 3 more years
    while he works on his next gig up the food
    chain in the ISOC empire in Geneva Switzerland.

    http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-31 oct04.htm

    "ICANN is preparing to release a proposed three year Strategic Plan. This Strategic Plan sets the direction and establishes the three-year goal for ICANN's Staff and Operational Functions. It has been prepared by the office of the ICANN President and CEO in consultation with ICANN's Board of Directors and after receiving input from the ICANN community. The final Plan will be completed after further consultation involving the ICANN Community."
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    ICANNwatch is Censored
    by Anonymous on Thursday November 04 2004, @04:10AM (#14420)
    ICANNwatch is Censored

    Keywords:
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    NLR.NET
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    ICANN's Dictator Vinton Cerf Pulls in the Fences
    by Anonymous on Thursday November 04 2004, @02:06PM (#14423)
    ICANN's Dictator Vinton Cerf Pulls in the Fences

    Faced with the defeat of President Heinz and now
    faced with the reality of four more years dealing
    with the Bush administration, ICANN Chairman
    Vinton Cerf is posturing to make ICANN look small
    and no longer a focal point. He is also ready
    to move up the food chain with his ISOC to the
    Geneva-based forums, where President Heinz would
    have been a visible player. Maybe Mother Theresa
    will be at Vinton Cerf's and Dave Farber's sides
    as they move on, beyond ICANN, in their quest
    for world domination.

    http://www.circleid.com/article/795_0_1_0_C/
    "The world needs an effective and well-supported ICANN but the participants in the World Summit on the Information Society and the Working Group on Internet Governance now need to turn their attention to the full panoply of public policy issues that, as discussed above, lie outside the mandate of ICANN."
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