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    Re:Not logic - but intellectual vacuity
    by WIPOorgUK on Tuesday November 09 2004, @01:13AM (#14431)
    User #3146 Info | http://wipo.org.uk/
    On re-reading my post, I hope you understood response was not meant to cause offence.

    It was for the assertion that "all I have to remember is the company name of the website I am searching for, then .com or .co.uk".

    This is the corporate ideal - what they want you to think - the big guy wins.

    So those with more "branding" bucks can say "screw you".

    "it does not naturally follow that .smith would be a solution"

    I have never said it could - just that name.class.area.reg would be.

    "With regards trademarks and preventing overreaching how does the creation of new gTLDs solve anything to do with trademarks? Surely this is a matter for politicians and the courts not for DNS design?"

    New gTLDs will not specifically prevent corrupt corporations attempting overreach.

    New restricted TLDs would help alleviate trademark problems. For example nissan.car would enable Uzi Nissan to use his nissan.com domain for his computer business.

    Unrestricted open gTLDs would allow unregistered trademark holders and public the chance to get the domain they want.

    I do not go for this confusion on TLDs - whom could not tell the difference between .web and .car?

    A fact for you - a directory system is essential for all trademarks (registered and unregistered) - if you really want people to easily find them.

    We do not have that - we just have search engines that simply comb the Internet for matching words.

    "Your proposal for .reg a trademark specific gTLD is perhaps the exception."

    How kind and insightful of you to notice :-)

    "Has anybody ever offered funding for such a proposal to ICANN?"

    Let me see - this would mean somebody admitting that the only way to avoid confusion with ordinary domain names is to tell people - correct?

    I cannot see anybody in big business that honest - can you?
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    Re:Not logic - but intellectual vacuity by WIPOorgUK
    Re:Not logic - but intellectual vacuity
    by gpmgroup on Tuesday November 09 2004, @02:47PM (#14432)
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    ”New restricted TLDs would help alleviate trademark problems. For example nissan.car would enable Uzi Nissan to use his nissan.com domain for his computer business”

    I doubt very much Nissan would give up a “.com” in exchange for a “.car” or any other corporation for that matter.

    ”I do not go for this confusion on TLDs - whom could not tell the difference between .web and .car?”

    I agree anyone can tell the difference between .web and .car but when I’m looking for a Nissan car website do I look for nissan.car or Nissan.com or nissan.auto or even nissan.garage? And is it the same for toyota.car or toyota.com or toyota.garage

    Could even end up as nissan.car and toyota.garage and ford.com and bmw.web And that is way too complicated when applied across 3000 or so TLDs Karl was suggesting.

    The result will simply be a reinforcement of the .com defacto must have TLD for all corporations, plus a greater cost with defensive registrations for brand protection.

    While there is a minimal quantity of new TLDs there is just a small chance if given enough time they may gain universal acceptance. The last three years have shown that three years is far too short a period for .biz or .info to have reached a critical quantity or gained sufficient exposure to provide any real competition to .com.

    Notably growth has come from the ccTLDs instead.
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