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    Looks Like Verisign is the Big Winner Not Counted
    by Anonymous on Sunday September 26 2004, @10:09PM (#14214)
    Looks Like Verisign is the Big Winner Not Counted

    $6.10 to the Registrar and $6.00 to Verisign

    It is amazing how many companies, that now have
    millions of customers, do not invest one dime to
    compete with Verisign and ICANN. One would think
    that by now, with a market-price set at $6.10
    that the Registrars would be demanding a more
    fair, 50/50, split with Verisign ($3.05 and $3.05).
    That of course may result in a new market-price
    of $3.10. Another 50/50 split would then give
    Verisign/ICANN $1.55 and the Registrar $1.55.
    Where would it end ?

    The Registrars appear to have no interest in
    directing ICANN to provide them a benefit. ICANN
    appears to exist to support the Verisign
    dominance (for a fee). ICANN has no choice but
    to strip Verisign of .NET and eventually .COM.
    It is interesting that Registrars apparently do
    not see themselves growing up to be Registries.
    Note: An 8-person company (ISOC) with zero
    prior Registry experience is handed the .ORG TLD
    while Registrars with 500 people are not viewed
    as qualified. .NET could of course have to be given to the
    ARIN, RIPE, APNIC trio to keep them solvent. .COM could be easily run by a trio of large
    Registrars. That would currently be a $2 per
    share split. It is amazing that the Registrars
    are not stepping forward to demand that ICANN
    provide them some benefit. The Registrars pay
    the fees and Verisign and ICANN are the big
    winners with the guaranteed cash flows. All of
    the risks are shifted to the Registrars and
    their Resellers.

    Maybe it will take some large Resellers to
    eventually step forward to compete with Verisign.
    Registrars appear to be caught in a collecive
    gaze that rivals Narcisus. Maybe it is because
    clueless spectators are wowed by statistics
    that really indicate nothing about the state
    of the .NET

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    $5.99 to the Registrar and $6.00 to Verisign
    by Anonymous on Sunday September 26 2004, @10:44PM (#14216)

    http://www.1and1.com [1and1.com]
    $5.99 to the Registrar and $6.00 to Verisign
    go figure
    http://www.1and1.com [1and1.com]
    Looks like the Resellers can start using this Registrar to pay less than Registrars pay. Customers should ask their Reseller if they (the customer) can choose the Registrar. Now that Registrars are becoming auction houses and warehouses, they could pay the Reseller to bring their names to their inventory.
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    Re:Looks Like Verisign is the Big Winner Not Count
    by markht on Tuesday September 28 2004, @04:11PM (#14235)
    User #4032 Info
    Its is only people like us, who have a history of being part of the internet governance changes, that ever know and care what split of their domain name fees go to Verisign.

    Most people feel that $20 or $30 is a fair price to pay for their domain name per year, certainly it's a lot less than they pay for their hosting and/or email.

    Despite being involved in domain names since 1995 I have stopped caring about a few dollars a year going to Verisign. I first felt like a competitor to Network Solutions (helping create the largest domain registrar in europe at that time (before registrars officially existed)), then I went to work for then (in the hopes of helping make them a better company), then I left them and went to work for another registrar, then I got out of the domain business and stopped caring as much:

    In the past year I have paid over $100,000 to Google Adwords for promoting my domain (and made a nice profit from that advertising), so why should I care if I pay $7 or $20 or $30 for my domain in comparison? It is simply a cost of doing business. At the end of the day customer support and online tools mean a lot more to me than the price (even so, Network Solutions still loses my business :)

    If I was a person who just wanted a domain name for their home page I might be concerned about what I pay for a domain (or I might just go use a subdomain) but no legitimate business is really concerned: all the complaints I see come from agitators, registrars who want a bigger slice of the pie, or (mostly) from domain speculators with thousands or tens of thousands of domains, to whom the difference between $6.50 and $6.60 a domain actually makes a difference to their bottom line.

    Mark.

    P.S. First post here in a long time as I know that 80+% of the posts are just good old Jeffy Williams replying to himself.
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