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    How big the WGIG? And other thoughts on dismembering ICANN | Log in/Create an Account | Top | 16 comments | Search Discussion
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    Be Realistic ICANN Will Last as Long as .ORG Money
    by Anonymous on Thursday September 16 2004, @09:37PM (#14153)
    Be Realistic ICANN Will Last as Long as .ORG Money

    The only way to get rid of ICANN is to remove the
    funding. Verisign could have done that. Verisign
    obviously benefits from having an ICANN that
    protects Verisign's customer bases, Registrars
    and .COM owners. ICANN even *fronts* the Registrar
    franchise process to keep Verisign from dealing
    with those liabilities.

    If Verisign were to remove the funding, ICANN
    would of course turn to the ISOC which has so
    much .ORG money flowing in they are trying to
    figure out subtle ways to dole it out to the
    insiders. [Check out the recent ISOC contract
    with a "consultant" to restructure the IETF.]
    Without Verisign funding, ICANN would likely
    be "absorbed" by the ISOC, as is happening with
    the IETF. ICANN would continue on and not go
    away.

    The only way consumers can vote with their
    money, their feet, their time and their systems
    is to move to new technology that removes the
    ISOC/ICANN from the domination role they work
    so hard to maintain. That is now possible with
    very low-cost equipment. This is similar to the
    transition to cable TV from a limited selection
    of dominant broadcast stations. The ISOC/ICANN
    is like telling everyone that PBS is the only
    channel and they have to keep calling one of
    the telethons to donate more money for more
    bland programming. With new equipment, people
    can now change the channel.

    The plan to use .NET money to further fatten
    the ISOC and the IETF will prolong the time
    that ICANN remains as the dealer, with the
    cards coming from the bottom of the deck and
    always favoring the insiders. .COM will remain
    and will essentially become "the root". That
    coupled with the continued reduction in usage
    of the legacy root servers will render
    ICANN's decisions irrelevant.

    With the .ORG and .NET funding, the ISOC and
    ICANN will never go away. Fortunately, they will
    have no impact on the next generation system
    architecture. Consumers will be free to
    actively choose and change the channel.

    *click*
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Cerf and Crocker Keep Jon Postel's Cronyism Alive
    by Anonymous on Friday September 17 2004, @08:20AM (#14156)

    http://www.isoc.org/isoc/media/releases/040805pr.s html
    [isoc.org]

    "Gross, who is currently Director of Academics and Technology for the Northern Virginia ECPI College of Technology, has worked with the Internet community for over 20 years. His career has taken him from working with government-funded research projects through to networking engineering responsibilities for large corporations and startups, including leading the development of MCI Corporation's first national network."
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    ICANN Heads to Africa to Sell/Lease Address Space
    by Anonymous on Friday September 17 2004, @03:07PM (#14159)
    ICANN Heads to Africa to Sell/Lease Address Space

    Now that interest in ICANN TLD scams has
    diminished, ICANN heads to Africa to try to
    take advantage of less informed consumers.
    One can imagine Joe Sims standing over starving
    children demanding his $300 per hour legal fees.


    http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-16 sep04.htm
    [icann.org]

    "AfriNIC formally filed its application in early September 2004 to start the review and technical processes for it to become a Regional Internet Registry."

    "Earlier this month, ICANN certified the Internet Society Congo (ISOC) as a new member of ICANN's At-Large Advisory Committee. ISOC Congo is a non-profit association with approximately 200 members; it provides information on Internet-related issues to users in the Democratic Republic of Congo and promotes the Internet in the Congo"
    ====

    Pay no attention to the fact that the ALAC is
    widely viewed as a failure. Sell the Africans
    whatever they will pay for. Better have ARIN
    get some of those $25,000 per year IPv6 blocks
    ready, for the suckers to buy in Africa. In an
    ironic twist, it will probably be U.S. citizens
    who pay for it all via some pork funding from
    the NSF or some other bloated agency.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Milton Misses the Mark - Again ? Leaves OUT IEEE ?
    by Anonymous on Saturday September 18 2004, @08:24AM (#14163)
    IMTC and Standards

    Dedicated to the advancement of real-time, rich-media communications, IMTC promotes interoperability of products and services based on international standards. The main standards bodies with which IMTC works are ETSI, IEEE, IETF, ISO/IEC, ITU-T, TIA, 3GPP, and W3C.

    IEEE

    http://www.ieee.org

    The Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, Inc. (IEEE, pronounced Eye-triple-E) is a non-profit, technical professional association of more than 380,000 individual members in 150 countries.

    Through its members, the IEEE is a leading authority in technical areas ranging from computer engineering, biomedical technology and telecommunications, to electric power, aerospace and consumer electronics, among others. Although not a formal standards organization, the IEEE sponsors consensus-based standards activities which have led to the development of nearly 900 active standards with 700 more under way.
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    What does WGIG **think** they will accomplish ?
    by Anonymous on Monday September 20 2004, @09:23AM (#14182)
    What does WGIG **think** they will accomplish ?

    Other than a lot of expensive travel to Geneva
    and other "in-crowd" locations, what does the
    WGIG **think** they will accomplish ?

    This all sounds like the crowd that held the
    world hunger convention years ago in Japan
    and spent something like $10,000,000 on building
    a temporary venue to house and feed the delegates
    who of course have never been hungry in their
    life.

    As for ICANN and the ISOC, they will eat this
    group's lunch several times and expect them to
    pick up the tab. Milton's Malitia appears to
    just be facilitating ICANN and the ISOC. Handing
    the .ORG TLD to the ISOC was a real gem.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]


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