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    Go Milton - Our WMD
    by Anonymous on Tuesday September 14 2004, @11:15AM (#14144)
    WOW with a weapon of mass distraction like
    Milton, how can we lose ?

    Cerf and the ISOC must laughing all the way to
    the bank (and Geneva) with this gem.

    That paper is like reading a report about
    space travel from people who only went out to
    their local airport for information. They get
    some of the buzzwords right, like jets and
    gates, but they miss the mark when it comes
    to discussing anything of real substance.
    They leave that out. It would be like never
    mentioning NASA in a paper about space travel
    and claiming that United and American air are
    the major players.

    We really need a new word for this kind of
    nonsense. MALINFORMATION comes to mind or
    simply MALFORMATION. How sick can this get ?

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    Facts That Milton Mueller Ignores (and CENSORS)
    by Anonymous on Tuesday September 14 2004, @02:49PM (#14149)
    1. BIND (Paul Vixie's software) is no longer
    the dominant DNS platform. Every low-cost
    (NAT IPv8/IPv9) router going into people's
    homes and small businesses contains a completely
    different and changable DNS platform.

    2. With DNS supplied a few feet from the users,
    via the above low-cost ($65) access devices,
    the processor in that device can make many
    intelligent decisions for the user and give
    the user an "impression of DNS" that may or
    may not match what the ICANN/IANA thought
    police mandate.

    3. The users are naturally going to think that
    their "impressions", developed from actual use,
    are what actually exist. The collective will
    of the users will become the reality. In the
    USA, where freedom still exists in isolated
    places, people will be free to develop their
    own impressions and do not need some group
    of academics and government policy wonks to
    tell them what to think.
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    Someone Should Review the IAHC History with Milton
    by Anonymous on Tuesday September 14 2004, @02:56PM (#14150)
    Someone Should Review the IAHC History with Milton

    This is a rerun. Substitute Don Heath with
    Milton Mueller. Robert Shaw will run it down
    the same dead-ends.
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    ICANN Ignores Critics, Competitors At Its Peril
    by sarahbrooks on Thursday September 16 2004, @05:03AM (#14151)
    User #4022 Info
    While it is natural for organizations to resist criticism, there’s a serious problem with ICANN refusing to take legitimate criticism seriously. If ICANN doesn’t address its serious critics, and mature as an organization quickly, the Internet community may well coalesce behind an international governing body such as the ITU, and leave ICANN behind in a dust cloud of irrelevance.

    While ICANN openly bristles at it’s critics calls that it become more open, inclusive, and transparent, it should remember that it is far more dangerous a game to ignore its potential competitors. Listen to how the ITU is selling its Working Group on Internet Governance (WGIG):
    "As outlined at the PrepCom in Hammamet, one of our priorities is to make sure that the process ahead of us is as open, inclusive and transparent as possible. To this end, the Secretariat is organizing consultations open to all Governments and stakeholders on the establishment of the WGIG, its structure and working methods as well as the scope of its work.
      Is ICANN paying attention? Those of us in the competitive marketplace know when we are being challenged. Does ICANN?

    ICANN, NTIA, and yes, even us critics should be careful to remember that the whole framework under which ICANN is “governing” the Internet is a very new, very fragile construct that is subject to review and replacement. We all might be shocked by how quickly the Internet community leaves the ICANN regulatory regime and elects an ITU regulatory regime in its place.

    I for one do not fear a competition between ITU and ICANN, since it is likely to pressure both bodies to offer not just the best collective “deal,” but the best “process” for Internet producers, users, and brokers.

    But ICANN should not kid itself that its current de facto monopoly status will last indefinitely. It will not. Potential competitors are out there, they are paying attention to the dissatisfaction with ICANN, and they are seeking entry into ICANN’s “market.” ICANN may chose to dismiss its critics, but it dismisses its competitors at its peril.
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