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    Only the Applicants Know ICANN's Decisions. Why? | Log in/Create an Account | Top | 16 comments | Search Discussion
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    ICANN does NOT make Decisions - They are Puppets
    by Anonymous on Wednesday September 08 2004, @08:09AM (#14112)
    ICANN does NOT make Decisions - They are Puppets

    You can not ask about "ICANN Decisions" because
    there are no ICANN Decisions. You are assuming
    this is some sort of fair and open process
    with transparency, etc. That is not the case.

    The ICANN "actors" are just puppets. They make
    no decisions. They are like a weathervane, they
    turn in the direction that money (and attention)
    points them.

    Go back and look at history. Did ICANN make a
    "decision" about trading years of .NET and .COM
    extensions for .ORG ? Did ICANN *decide* that
    Verisign would pay the Internet Society (ISOC)
    $5,000,000 to get rid of .ORG ? Did the ICANN
    Board or any of the councils have a clue what
    was going on ? Was the ICANN staff even in the
    office ?

    The world is moving forward. The world is not
    waiting for ICANN to make ANY decisions. The
    consumers in the free and open marketplaces
    are making decisions. Consumers like the FREE .INFO names (at 20,000+ names per day) compared
    to the high-priced .ORG names that support the
    ICANN regime.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    What else is new
    by jberryhill on Wednesday September 08 2004, @08:25AM (#14113)
    User #3013 Info


    It's not surprising. ICANN isn't saying anything about the money they collected from registrar applicants, who have now been shut out from registering .com names by a unilateral moratorium by Verisign on allowing any more registrars access to the shared registration system.

    If you file a registrar application today, ICANN will gladly take your money and will not tell you up front that you will not be able to actually use your accredition in .com.

    There was supposed to be an announcement "in a few days" quite some time ago, but ICANN has apparently decided not to announce the fact that they are engaging in criminal fraud by accepting those registrar accreditation checks from people who think they will become registrars that way.

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Do you think the board knows yet?
    by KarlAuerbach on Wednesday September 08 2004, @11:36AM (#14116)
    User #3243 Info | http://www.cavebear.com/
    Having been on the board, I can suggest that there is yet another possibility: that the board has not yet been informed of decisions made by "staff".
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Fidel Cerf and the ICANN Taliban and ISOC/IETF
    by Anonymous on Wednesday September 08 2004, @12:00PM (#14117)
    What people are seeing is Fidel Cerf and his
    ICANN Taliban now fully funded with the .ORG
    cash cow. The ISOC is finally going to admit
    that they control the IETF. They now have millions
    of dollars to crush anyone they want. In the
    past, they used the IETF thugs to do that and
    claimed to not be connected, which was a lie.

    Netizens in the U.S.A. now get to see what it is
    (or was) like to live under the Taliban rule.

    It is ironic that both U.S. presidential
    candidates are clueless that their biggest
    problems with freedom are sitting in places
    like Herdon, Virginia.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    ISOC Admits it is Liable for IETF Thugs' Actions
    by Anonymous on Wednesday September 08 2004, @02:37PM (#14118)
    ISOC Admits it is Liable for IETF Thugs' Actions

    It should be clear that ICANN gave .ORG to the
    ISOC based on a stacked deck of cards. The ISOC
    had NO experience as a TLD Registry. The ISOC
    needed money. Vint Cerf produce money from heaven.
    It is now raining cash at the ISOC. Vint is a hero.

    http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current /msg31139.html

    At 8:55 AM -0400 9/8/04, John C Klensin wrote:
    --On Wednesday, 08 September, 2004 09:21 +0200 Brian E Carpenter
      wrote:

    >
    And that's exactly why the liability insurance policy held by
      > ISOC covers IETF "officials" today.

    Would someone who actually knows or can find out care to comment
    on whether the insurance would cover such "officials" if they
    started engaging in direct, large-scale, financial management
    and/or the direct supervision of those who were doing so, in
    addition to standards activities?

    john

    The ISOC Directors & Officers insurance presently covers the IETF, IESG, IAB, IRTF, IRSG and IANA (IETF related) "officials", and the RFC Editor. It extends to the level of Working Group chairs and also covers the NomComm process (including Recall Committees). This coverage would extend to financial management and/or direct supervision of those doing so in addition to standards activities, so long as the IETF was an unincorporated entity and was operating under the "umbrella" of ISOC (as you are today). Should the IETF incorporate as a separate entity, it would (obviously) no longer be covered under the ISOC insurance policy, but would require its own.

    Regards,

    Lynn
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    Watch this try COM.ICANNwatch.WEB
    by Anonymous on Wednesday September 08 2004, @04:23PM (#14121)
    try COM.ICANNwatch.WEB

    It works !!!

    The look-up is for WEB.ICANNwatch.COM

    It seems to work.

    That must indicate that ICANNwatch.COM may have
    a WILD-CARD in place. I bet the ICANN Board would
    not like that. Does that promote stability ?
    to have something work ?
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
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    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    .NET is Different from .COM
    by Anonymous on Thursday September 09 2004, @07:46AM (#14123)
    .NET is Different from .COM

    NET.icannwatch.TLD is **first** looked up as

    icannwatch.TLD.NET

    if that domain is not found it is handled like .COM

    COM.icannwatch.TLD is looked up as

    TLD.icannwatch.COM for the trademark value

    The plan is for ICANN to make a total mess of .NET and then .COM will be king or is that .KING ?

    COM.icannwatch.ROCKS

    you can drop the .COM for two-segment names it
    is assumed to be on the left before the flip-flop
    occurs

    http://ICANNwatch.ROCKS
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Isn't It Obvious?
    by sforrest on Thursday September 09 2004, @06:51PM (#14124)
    User #3986 Info
    If only ICANN and the applicant are privy to the information, it prevents other current and future applicants from having a true understanding of the ICANN decision-making process. Lacking that knowledge puts applicants at a disadvantage in preparing their applications, and enables ICANN to make decisions based on its whims rather than via an established and understood process.

    ICANN doesn't share the information because it is not in ICANN's interest to do so, even though it most certainly would be in the best interest of both current and future applicants and the Internet-using business community and public.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    ICANN asks advise of IAB and SSAC re new gTLDs
    by Anonymous on Thursday September 23 2004, @08:24AM (#14203)
    Letter from Paul Twomey to Steve Crocker (PDF) ICANN Security and Stability Advisory Committee 22 September 2004 Request for Assistance with Development of New TLD Policy
    http://www.icann.org/correspondence/Letter-to-SSAC .pdf

    To accomplish these objectives, ICANN requests the SSAC's expert advice on technical stability issues related to the introduction of new TLDs, including planning for registry failures.


    Letter from Paul Twomey to Leslie Daigle (PDF) Internet Architecture Board 22 September 2004 Request for Assistance with Development of New TLD Policy
    http://www.icann.org/correspondence/Letter-to-IAB. pdf

    To accomplish these objectives, ICANN requests the IAB's expert advice on any potential protocol-related limitations or issues arising from the introduction of new TLDs, and any need for additional technical standards to support multilingual TLDs.


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