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    Re: Using WHOIS Policy To Snag Good Domain Names
    by fnord (reversethis-{moc.oohay} {ta} {k2yorg}) on Thursday September 05 2002, @11:20AM (#9077)
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    Richard Henderson wrote Dan Halloran and others at ICANN regarding ICANN accredited registrar YesNic over four months ago (with no action or even response to date). Some of their questionable activities have been publicized for months before that. Now comes an allegation that YesNic is shielding WHOIS information and offering to act as a broker to someone who wants the name. Even VeriSign isn't doing this SFAIK. So where is ICANN when it comes to dealing with longstanding complaints of multiple apparent breaches against a registar? I guess it's just not politically wise or newsworthy enough for ICANN to threaten YesNic with disaccreditation. -g

    whois -h whois.crsnic.net joesworld.com

    Domain Name: JOESWORLD.COM
    Registrar: YESNIC CO. LTD.
    Whois Server: whois.yesnic.com
    Referral URL: http://www.yesnic.com
    Name Server: No nameserver
    Updated Date: 16-apr-2002

    whois -h whois.yesnic.com joesworld.com

    No record found for domain joesworld.com.

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    Re: Using WHOIS Policy To Snag Good Domain Names
    by jberryhill on Thursday September 05 2002, @12:37PM (#9083)
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    Register.com does the same thing with its "unpaid names department". The registrars are required to provide whois data for "active" registrations. Some of the registrars have interpreted this to mean that they can cherry-pick domain names which are due to expire from their system, pay the $6.00 registry fee on their own, and then basically speculate on the name. If they let it go, then it will probably be registered through another registrar, so this can be a minor hedge against loss of market share. The argument is that these names are not in the .com zone and are not "active" registrations. They just live in the registry like ghosts. If a legal issue such as a trademark comes up, then some of the registrars will back-pedal, exclaim, "Gee, we don't know why it didn't drop", and the name will then drop.

    Recall that registrar name hoarding, according to the contract, is to be made subject to any registrar consensus policy that may be adopted on the subject. Of course, no such policy has been adopted, is in the works, or will be adopted. As Stuart Lynn forcefully made clear on the GA list recently, there is no "registrar code of conduct" - although he does not seem to appreciate that the accreditation agreement does prescribe at least some definable obligations on the part of registrars.
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    Re: Using WHOIS Policy To Snag Good Domain Names
    by fnord (reversethis-{moc.oohay} {ta} {k2yorg}) on Thursday September 05 2002, @08:35PM (#9094)
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    Thomas Roessler, Chair of the DNSO GA, has now ratted out YesNic to internic.net. Hey droogies, let's all drop a dime on all them ICANN accredited scammers. -g
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