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ICANN could not hire a better straight man than
Milton Mueller, an academic with far too much time
on his hands and a boundless capacity to waste
other people's time and HELP to perpetuate a
travesty like ICANN. [ Also note the key role that
Sir Milton played in handing the .ORG TLD cash-cow
to the Internet Society. ]
This time around, Milton is apparently front row
center at the latest ICANN retreat in Shangri La.
Apparently, someone or some group thinks Milton
should be funded to attend expensive events such
as that. The average Internet user can not afford
to do that, even if they live near the venue.
They have to work for a living.
ICANN and the Internet Society of course depend
on a steady stream of "people with too much time
on their hands" to make up their audience. Without
that face-to-face audience, there is no ICANN.
The web-site(s) are not the meeting place. ICANN
does not use the Internet. They avoid it at all
costs.
Fortunately, people who DO USE THE INTERNET, can
avoid wasting their time and their friend's and
family's time and focus on building a real .NET
Those people do not have to travel to ICANN
venues, and they do not have to waste their time
on Milton's Minutia.
Instead, some are building hardware, others are
writing code, and still others are writing
documentation. From there, groups are taking
their results to the open and free North American
marketplace, where the real critics will judge
and vote with their $$$s, eye-balls and time.
It is really a shame that an intelligent person
like Milton, does not realize the harm that he
does to current generations and future generations
by being part of the ICANN and Internet Society
audience. Maybe the best one can hope for is that
Milton is effective at entertaining ICANN while
the rest of the world is spared, and spends their
time on productive work with lasting results.
ICANN's days are numbered. Clearly, with the
release of the 9/11 Commission Report, the
political and legal climate will change in the
United States. Telecommunication companies are
not going to rely on amateur root server
operators controlled by an Australian girlie-boy.
The Governator will help to change all that.
The .NET technology is now ready, and available
to any always-on broad-band user for less than
$100 in new hardware.
The Internet Society will now last as long as
people are willing to pay their $6 per year .ORG
taxes. Of course the Society will block all forms
of competition and attempt to use their network
of sham non-profit companies to do their dirty
work. They like living like royalty in the U.S.
and Switzerland. Check out their up-coming bash
in San Diego, where your .ORG tax dollars will
be spent.
One can only hope that education (something
Milton is supposed to be paid to do) and time
will help to educate people and help them *avoid*
becoming the audience to the ICANN circus or
a brain-washed, card-carrying member of the
communist Internet Society. Yes, companies like
V$, M$ and C$ are going to HELP do that education
and they will prosper. Imagine what would happen
if people like Milton also helped. On second
thought, he is probably best being used as one
of the weapons of minutia-distraction. Carry on.
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The NTIA/DOC Now Has to Clean Up the IPv6 Mess.
ICANN is no longer an issue. The Internet Society
is a major embarassment from the Clinton/Gore
era. Don't forget Vinton Cerf was the one who
claimed that Al Gore "invented" the Internet.
John Kerry is no doubt the inventor of IPv6.
Bush just needs to make sure it is buried.
Actually, neither candidate has a clue what it is.
The IPv6 zealots have duped the large and
powerful U.S. DOD (Thanks Marilynn) into telling
everyone that IPv6 is their choice. China is
of course answering with cheap hardware and
IPv8 (NAT) and IPv9. China is also launching
satellites into outer-space. Vinton Cerf is
out to lunch on Mars, a safe place where he can
not get in anyone's way.
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/ntiageneral/ipv6/ index.html
SUMMARY: The National Institute of Standards and
Technology (NIST) and the National Telecommunications
and Information Administration (NTIA), U.S. Department
of Commerce, will host a half-day public meeting on
Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6), entitled IPv6
Public Meeting.
The meeting will provide an opportunity for interested
parties to discuss IPv6 deployment issues, including
the appropriate government role, if any, in IPv6
deployment.
DATES: The IPv6 Public Meeting will be held from 9:00
a.m. to 1:30 p.m. on Wednesday, July 28, 2004.
ADDRESSES: The public meeting will be held at the U.S.
Department of Commerce, 1401 Constitution Avenue,
N.W., Room 4830, Washington, D.C. (Entrance to the
Department of Commerce is on 14th Street between
Constitution and Pennsylvania Avenues, N.W.)
FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Alfred Lee, Office of
Policy Analysis and Development, NTIA, at (202)
482-1880, or via electronic mail: alee at ntia.doc.gov.
NTIA is posting the IPv6 Task Force discussion draft,
"Technical and Economic Assessment of Internet Protocol
Version 6 (IPv6)."
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700 People is the "world-wide Internet community"?
"Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (23 July 2004) – ICANN wrapped up its week-long meetings in KL during which the world-wide Internet community moved forward on a number of significant new initiatives directed at further stewarding a stable global Internet. The meeting was attended by more than 700 participants from over 50 countries from all regions of the world."
How many were women ?
What races were represented ?
How many were handicapped ?
What religions were represented there ?
What income brackets ?
What age groups ?
How many dogs and cats attended ?
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ICANN drops the "IANA Function" Charade
From the ICANN "spin cycle" comes:
"ICANN is an internationally organized, public benefit non-profit responsible for coordinating the ICANN Functions, which include Internet Protocol (IP) address space allocation, protocol identifier assignment, generic (gTLD) and country code (ccTLD) Top-Level Domain name system management, and root server system management functions."
Note: ICANN now coordinates "the ICANN Functions"
a rather circular statement from the spin zone
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"Resolved [04.56], that the Board adopts the proposed budget as the annual budget of ICANN for the fiscal year 2004-2005.
Resolved [04.57], that the President and Staff are hereby authorized to continue collaboration with the various constituencies to finalize the appropriate mechanisms and model for collecting the needed revenue levels."
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Whereas, ICANN Bylaws Article VI, Section 13, requires that each annual meeting for ICANN be held at the principal office of ICANN, or any other appropriate place of the Board's time and choosing, provided such annual meeting is held within 14 months of the immediately preceding annual meeting.
Whereas, the Board will be meeting in Cape Town, South Africa on 5 December 2004.
Whereas, the Board desires to designate its meeting on 5 December 2004 as the 2004 Annual Meeting for ICANN.
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Thursday, July 22
ICANN Will Choose Six New Registries?
by cambler on July 22, 2004 10:17AM (PDT)
ICANN is budgeting revenue averaging $100,000 from each of six new registries.
Considering that only 1 of the .tel applicants can get .tel, that means that 6 of 9 applicants would be chosen. Which three get the thumbs-down, do you think?
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The keyword is "new". The second keyword is
"registry". The third keyword is "revenue".
You can rearrange the order of the words to
see how ICANN views the situation.
new registry revenue
new revenue registry
new .NET registry revenue
new.NET registry revenue
What is happening is that ICANN is looking for
NEW players that can guarantee them $100,000 per
year in kick-backs. EXISTING Registries do not
qualify, ICANN already has them in the syndicate.
The real question is not "Which three get the
thumbs-down" but "Which six players will sign the
secret oath to guarantee the annual pay-offs?"
ICANN has located some recent fools who will
toss $50,000 out on the ICANN roulette table.
Their money has been spent on the latest junket
to Shangri La. That wine and caviar was not cheap.
ICANN is now more interested in finding the
players who will year-after-year toss $100,000
in the ICANN direction (as a donation of course).
Universities do the same thing. For $100,000
per year, a player (organization) gets some piece
of several professors spinning information into
a form that benefits the supporting company.
In summary, ICANN has decided (secretly of
course) that they can bring "six" NEW players
into their closed circle, to help build their
endowment. It should be obvious who the six
NEW good OLD boys will be, and the bimbos** that
are backing each one.
**The new path to "success" is to be born in
Africa, go to Switzerland, find a riiiiich
American, marry him and then inherit his
fortune. From there, you find a Senator with
"nice hair", marry him, and buy your way into
the Whitehouse. ICANN loves African Americans,
if they have money.
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This is a farce. Vinton Cerf's cronies and
Internet Society has 100% capture of ICANN.
The reason Vint sees so many smiling faces is
that 99.9% of the real netizens are gone. All
he sees are the ICANNites. Everything runs
very smoothly. Vint makes sure they are all
funded. That makes them all smile a lot.
Cerf used to do that directly by giving out
U.S. Government DARPA funding. Now he directs
the cash flow from the Internet taxes. Nothing
has changed.
"as i said, there is actually a home in this model for all of those interest groups that previously were in dispute with each other or fighting with each other. and, importantly, if you look at the board of directors, the board of directors is constituted with people elected from each of these supporting organizations, plus people, if you like, independent directors, which is increasingly an important issue in a post-enron, post-mci corporate environment, corporate governance environment. we have nominating committee appointed directors -- that those -- the board of directors comes from across all of those interest groups, representations, that those board of directors have fiduciary obligation to the organization as a whole, and the board has been established in such a way that it is not possible for one particular interest group to capture the board."
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>>amadeu abril i abril: a short question, kurt.
oh, this time with the hat of advisor to the (inaudible), one of the applicants for this round of stlds. the comment is first, i don't think that anybody will force the icann staff to stick to the proposed schedule. we just want to know what the schedule will not -- you know, there is no contractual obligation on being there and we prefer you to do a very good job than just say something, even if it's stupid, by the 31 of july. the other thing is we will be grateful for further clarification on things like the next step. and you understand things are causing a lot of familiar stress in our team. in august, in southern europe, we tend to have a strange habit of closing down the country because it's too hot and go on holidays. and there is no way that we know whether we should all be there just in front of our fax machine or telephone or not. and we've been asking that several times. i repeat, we don't want a contractual, obligatory answer. just what will happen in the next three weeks or something like that, whether we can go to the beach or not (laughter.).
>>vint cerf: while kurt is consulting, the simple answer is board policy is make them sweat.
(laughter.)
>>vint cerf: so we're hoping that you will be hanging around through august.
>>kurt pritz: i think it's -- i'll have to test this, but i think it's reasonable that there's some sort of communication with everybody on july 31st, even if it's to say we're not done yet and here's what the timetable going forward looks like.
>>amadeu abril i abril: thanks a lot.
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Where are the ICANN.ORG IPv6 DNS Records ???? What does PSG.COM have to do with ICANN.ORG ??? Why is APNIC.NET involved ? Is ICANN located in the Asia/Pacific Region ? What IPv4 and IPv6 blocks does the ICANN office use ? Is ICANN using "reserved" IANA address space ? Does EACH ICANN Staff member have an end-to-end, dual-stack, IPv4 **and** IPv6 Internet connection ?
# dig icann.org any
; > DiG 9.2.1 > icann.org any ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 34406 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 7, AUTHORITY: 7, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;icann.org. IN ANY ;; ANSWER SECTION:
icann.org. 65190 IN NS ns.icann.org.
icann.org. 65190 IN NS rip.psg.com.
icann.org. 65190 IN NS sec1.apnic.net.
icann.org. 65190 IN NS sec3.apnic.net.
icann.org. 65190 IN NS a.iana-servers.net.
icann.org. 65190 IN NS b.iana-servers.org.
icann.org. 65190 IN NS c.iana-servers.net. ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
icann.org. 65190 IN NS ns.icann.org.
icann.org. 65190 IN NS rip.psg.com.
icann.org. 65190 IN NS sec1.apnic.net.
icann.org. 65190 IN NS sec3.apnic.net.
icann.org. 65190 IN NS a.iana-servers.net.
icann.org. 65190 IN NS b.iana-servers.org.
icann.org. 65190 IN NS c.iana-servers.net. ;; WHEN: Sun Jul 25 10:04:27 2004 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 288 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.icann.org. IN ANY ;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.icann.org. 10168 IN A 192.0.34.163
# whois 192.0.34.163
[Querying whois.arin.net]
[whois.arin.net]
Internet Assigned Numbers Authority RESERVED-192 (NET-192-0-0-0-1)
192.0.0.0 - 192.0.127.255
ICANN
c/o Internet Assigned Numbers Authority ICANN (NET-192-0-32-0-1)
192.0.32.0 - 192.0.47.255
ICANN
c/o Internet Assigned Numbers Authority ICANN (NET-192-0-34-0-1)
192.0.34.0 - 192.0.36.255
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[This comment was inadvertently deleted and has been reinstated. -- tb]
Note: the NEW .NET (or is it NEW.NET) cable.TV-like
devices take care of this "problem" for
walled-garden Internet users.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draf t-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-02.txt
DNS Operations
M. Larson
Internet-Draft
P. Barber
Expires: January 17, 2005
VeriSign
July 19, 2004
Observed DNS Resolution Misbehavior
draft-ietf-dnsop-bad-dns-res-02
This memo describes DNS name server and
resolver behavior that results in a
significant query volume sent to the root and
top-level domain (TLD) name servers. In some
cases we recommend minor additions to the DNS
protocol specification and corresponding
changes in iterative resolver implementations
to alleviate these unnecessary queries. The
recommendations made in this document are a
direct byproduct of observation and analysis
of abnormal query traffic patterns seen at
two of the thirteen root name servers and all
thirteen com/net TLD name servers.
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