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    Vinton Cerf is Just Protecting the .ORG Cash Cow
    by Anonymous on Tuesday July 20 2004, @06:26PM (#13995)
    It has taken a long time for Vinton Cerf to
    get the .ORG cash cow into the Internet Society's
    pasture. Vinton Cerf of course helped to dream
    up the Internet Society, prior to ICANN. Don
    Heath was a Vinton Cerf puppet from MCI placed
    at the head of the Internet Society to hide
    Cerf's and Postel's manipulations. Vinton Cerf
    has been manipulating funding streams his entire
    career. He used to mostly dole out U.S. Government
    money as a DARPA funding manager. That is like
    a Purchasing Agent at a large company.

    Now that the .ORG cash cow is being milked by
    the Internet Society and all of the ICANN
    insiders, they will of course protect it and
    prevent any competition to impact their gravy
    train. They of course have no intention of
    telling people where all of the .ORG money goes
    and will make up whatever lies are needed to
    protect their interests.

    As for the "clowns", they are just a side-show.
    They distract the casual observers from the
    money changers who hide behind lofty titles
    and sham non-profit companies. As long as people
    are duped into buying .ORG names, the Internet
    Society will continue to tax them and laugh
    all the way to the bank. They are of course doing
    all that hard work for the benefit of the public,
    which is not laughing.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    The IPv6 Spin Machine Takes Center Stage
    by Anonymous on Wednesday July 21 2004, @07:57AM (#13998)
    Not only is Vinton Cerf pulling out all of the
    stops and "sending in the clowns", he is clearly
    now grasping at straws with the latest ICANN
    "spin" announcement that IPv6 is being added to
    the root zone.

    "Next-generation IPv6 Address Added to the Internet's Root DNS Zone"

    They even orchestrated an Asia-centric drum-roll
    approach to making the announcement. All of the
    usual [well-funded] insiders are of course cited
    as backers of what is claimed as some major step
    forward. Clearly, the new generation of ICANN audience and staff are easily duped.

    Educated Americans will not be so easily duped.
    A technical novice can easily see that a DNS
    "A Record" contains 32-bits. It does not say
    anything about the "version" of the protocol to
    use. You could encode your birthday or social
    security number in the 32-bit field and send it
    via the DNS. There is no requirement that the
    number be used as a 32-bit IP address.

    What ICANN claims is an "IPv6 Address" is just
    the addition of a 128-bit "AAAA Record". Again,
    it does not contain the protocol number (but
    could) to use. It is just a large bloab of binary
    information, four times larger than a 32 bit
    A Record. Most people can see that 32 times 4
    is 128. Again, there is no requirement that the
    128 bit number in an AAAA Record be used for
    a particular protocol. It could just be an
    efficient way to send four (4) A Records and
    package them together.

    The spin machine of the Internet Society and
    the U.S. DOD-backed IPv6 zealots of course are
    going to attempt to force IPv6 down everyone's
    throats along with THEIR one-way or the highway
    approach to how an AAAA Record is formed. They
    of course want to make sure that your hardware
    serial number is included in those records and
    your packets so that all of the various law
    enforcement agencies and spook groups (CIA, NSA,
    etc.) can quickly rush to your front door to
    have the FBI or local police seize your servers
    and/or lap-tops under the direction of the
    "thought police" sitting in some ivory tower,
    like the ICANN tower, at Marina Del Rey.

    If you have concerns about the "whois" witch
    hunts, just stay tuned for the "whereis" squads
    which will be now under the direction of the
    Internet Society and ICANN and all of their
    government cronies who long for the day when
    they have an RFID tag under your skin and have
    a GPS tracking device being watched from their
    towers. The "legal community" will of course
    love this, as they walk into court and show
    that Scott and Laci were in the same boat and
    the precise time and date.

    ISOC - It Seeks Overall Control - Your lack of
    education and willingness to suck up the latest
    spin from ICANN will doom you and your off-spring
    to live in "the community" they have prepared
    for you. Right Esther ?

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Vint on morality
    by fnord (reversethis-{moc.oohay} {ta} {k2yorg}) on Wednesday July 21 2004, @05:16PM (#13999)
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    Vint seems [yahoo.com] to think he can teach online morality. Given constant ICANN secrecy, deception, self-dealing scandals that are different in degree but not in kind from the likes of Enwrong, his own WorldCon, and poor near fatality Martha Stewart, well, it's enough to make one barf.

    So in the link I provide he wants governments to keep their hands off his internet (except when he allows it), while in the posted article above he wants GAC, that is, governments, to have a say in his internet. Which is it? Oh, I get it, the latter way he gets to decide which government input to allow. What hubris. -g

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    This is Pure 'reality-bending' Spin syrup...
    by GideonsLastSon on Friday July 23 2004, @07:32AM (#14016)
    User #3824 Info | http://icannwatch.jothan.at/start.php
    Don't pour maple syrup on top of dog droppings and call it pancakes.

    I have honestly not had the opportunity to watch ICANN walk a walk that matches something even remotely close to what Vint describes in this article.

    I was really disappointed in Vint on the spin doctor aspect of this article, as he has made so many contributions to the internet throughout his career that have been so helpful and positive for everyone.

    The points made in the article really bend reality in a way to lead a reader to a conclusion that ICANN has benefitted everyone more than the very few that they actually have.

    I opine that the article would lead the reader who bases their descisions on very high level perspectives of what is really happening (such as, say governmental officials who are busy with their everyday problems that this internet stuff is only a blip on a radar), to believe that ICANN is something different than what it has shown itself to be.

    I don't mean this to dilute the positive things that we have seen from ICANN, because there have been some good things to come from them, and there are a lot of very well intentioned people involved and contributing their time and energy.

    C'mon Vint. I expect pragmatic honesty to be a solution to the state of affairs we are in.

    I may not be alone.

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