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    "Pay attention. The ball moves" So does the .NET
    by Anonymous on Tuesday July 13 2004, @09:19PM (#13951)
    This is a good point. People need to pay attention.
    The .NET is on the move. Some people are still
    living in the past. They think the Internet is
    composed of dial-up users connecting via ex-BBS
    operators who can now afford better equipment.

    The .NET is now an always-on broadband cloud
    run by large telecom carriers. Packets going in
    one side of the cloud may emerge from the other
    side of the cloud WITHOUT a change in TTL and
    without any clue what IP addresses (nodes) they

    Users are given /32 dynamic IP addresses with
    a Netmask of meaning ALL of the
    bits are network address bits. The telco is
    essentially handing out a temporary *handle*
    to be used at the edge of the cloud. Those
    handles may resemble an IP address from 10
    years ago, but they are not the same. The game
    has changed. The ball moves and so does the .NET.

    ICANN has relied on the strong-arm network of
    RIRs to enforce their DNS policies in the
    ISP's DNS servers. That is no longer possible.
    The always-on consumer, with one or more
    high-speed links, is not beholden to an RIR
    and indirectly ICANN. They get their single
    IP address from their telco carrier and it is
    a meaningless dynamic *handle*. The consumer's
    edge device begins to shape their view of
    "Internet Governance", if there is such a thing.

    Consumers can now collaborate with their
    high-speed always-on connections via their
    edge devices. The cloud is no longer part of
    the nodes they see in the collaboration. In
    the old days, the cloud was made up of the
    nodes. That is no longer the case. The cloud
    can now be more and more opaque. That makes it
    more stable and secure and removes control
    and operations of the cloud from the hands of
    groups like the ISOC. NANOG operators now sit
    on the side-lines telling war stories about
    the good old days. They no longer define the .NET.

    The good news is that the telcos and broadband
    carriers will create a dumb, opaque and level
    playing field. The bad news is that it will
    initially be a wasteland in terms of DNS and
    people will naturally rush in to fill the voids.
    Consumers are going to be welcomed with a wide
    range of TLDs and new DNS services. ICANN will
    have no say and some may observe that the free
    market appears to be mass confusion, and long
    for the good old days of no change and the
    iron-fist rule of the IANA dictators. Eventually,
    the free market will settle down and what will
    emerge will be what consumers desire and define
    in their edge appliances. The ISOC leaders will
    of course rant and rave about trivial end-to-end
    notions and claim that the edge appliances can
    not be useful or made to collectively collaborate.
    The ISOC leaders far underestimate the average
    netizen's desire to push every boundary and their
    ability to route around the blockades constructed
    in the core network which is no longer there. It
    is now a cloud. The ball has moved. ICANN is
    frozen in time, with no place or purpose and
    no ability to ever get their hands on the ball
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    Re:You Don't Understand Pool.com
    by Nagle on Tuesday July 13 2004, @11:12PM (#13954)
    User #3540 Info
    I understand what "pool.com" says they do, and some of what they actually do. It looks like what they actually do is that they have an arrangement with a registrar to allow them to register names without providing registrant data. This would appear to violate the ICANN Registrar Agreement, section 3.7.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re:You Don't Understand Pool.com
    by Anonymous on Sunday September 05 2004, @09:50PM (#14106)
    "Pool is not registering domain names for "itself" - it is indeed registering domain names in response to requests received from prospective registrants."

    Disagree with you interpretation, pool is very much registering names for itself. They are essentially a domain reseller who go after in demand names with their registrar partners then try to sell them off to the highest bidder. Showing a blank whois while the sales process is being undertaken doesn't change that.
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