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    Re: ICANN Rips VeriSign Over Whois Violations
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Tuesday September 03 2002, @09:12PM (#9003)
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    Yes, someone else pointed that out elsewhere, thx. However, what does this say about ICANN and Joker, and the registrant? Has no-one complained about it? Is Joker not even aware of it? If this is widespread throughout Joker's WHOIS, then why go after VeriSign alone? Actually I don't see this as a bad thing necessarily (assuming we must have a public WHOIS) as it would at least slow down automated mining, although it wouldn't take much of a script to strip it in this case. I have often considered munging my WHOIS addresses so that it would take a human to figure them out but didn't out of concern I might not receive some automated but important notice. One does wonder how, or if, Joker is able to send mail to its registrants. And I've pointed out this version of this WHOIS a number of times here and elsewhere going back months, isn't there some responsibility (in the clickwrap agreement) for registrants to ensure their data is accurate? Even if not it seems strange one wouldn't check to ensure that it was. -g
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    Re: ICANN Rips VeriSign Over Whois Violations by fnord
    Accurate in Joker's WHOIS?
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday September 04 2002, @10:27PM (#9037)
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    Anon writes:
    The email address for Kent Crispin is clearly accurate in joker's whois.
    What do you mean it is clearly accurate in Joker's WHOIS? Using Joker's web-based WHOIS query form one gets back:
    kent@songbird.com#0
    for each of the contact emails. A direct query via port 43 also returns:
    kent@songbird.com#0
    for each of the contact emails. What WHOIS are you looking at that shows it differently? Send yourself an email and append #0 to the address and see what happens.

    And I suppose Kent Crispin's fax number is really +12345678 too, right? Sheesh, unlike you and various other posters, I put my name to what I right so I try to strive for accuracy. Ironic that those who want accuracy in a public WHOIS don't, while also remaining private. -g

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    Re: ICANN Rips VeriSign Over Whois Violations
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday September 04 2002, @10:55PM (#9039)
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    Anon writes:
    One of the concerns with a service like this, of course, is that people will stoop to vindictive harassment of those they don't like.
    I get tired of repeating myself, so I imagine regular ICANNWatchers must get bored of this, but as I've said on numerous occasions, I sometimes do work for a site which monitors and publishes information about hate groups. It is a longstanding organization that predates the web so is well aware of the importance of privacy (3 bombings in ten years, countless death threats). It is experienced enough, sufficiently technically clued, and can also afford, to have accurate but non-traceable WHOIS contact information.

    Not everyone fits that description, and some people will stoop lower than vindictive harassment. It is entirely possible someone will die one of these days due to public WHOIS information, if that hasn't already happened, and I suppose the IP folks would still have us believe that that is a small price to pay to ensure that consumers don't mistake icann-sucks.org for icann.org. -g

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