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    Re: ICANN Rips VeriSign Over Whois Violations
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Tuesday September 03 2002, @02:40PM (#8988)
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    Privacy, if it is a right (and in Canada it is), should be the default. An unlisted Canadian phone number costs more too, that is because it has to be removed from the default telco database which lists all. I can understand that. So, add a buck or two to the price of a domain name to be unlisted in the WHOIS. Even if I have an unlisted number the telco still has my number. So does someone if they have a court order. It should be ditto for the WHOIS. -g
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    Re: ICANN Rips VeriSign Over Whois Violations
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Tuesday September 03 2002, @03:55PM (#8995)
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    Anon writes:
    Presumably if there was demand for privacy in domain registrations, registrar competition will result in cheap prices for "unlisted" domain registrations, as well.
    This is misleading, registrars can't offer "unlisted" domain registrations, presumably they can offer to act as a go-between, to have their contact info in place of yours, and presumably for an additional price. I got spam recently for a site whose contact details were actually VeriSign, although I don't think it was VeriSign directly. It may or may not have been that the spammer entered that data themselves, but why give only valid VeriSign addies? That seems a strange place to hide.
    I understand that some registrars actually offer this as a service--looks like a market opportunity, to me.
    It seems to me register.com did so at one point and perhaps still does. So have a few others though I can't remember which. I agree that this is a market opportunity, I also wonder how long it will be allowed to exist by ICANN and the IP crowd if the registrar doesn't readily cough up the supposedly private data. There are also various third party non-registrars online offering similar services.
    Oh -- and the email address "kent@songbird.com#0" that you complained about is purely an artifact of how joker does its contact handles -- the registrant's email address has the "#n" appended to generate the contact ID.
    Was Kent registrant #0? Just kidding. It's not that I don't believe you but I've used Joker and not had that happen. If I had I would have corrected it after it had been pointed out a few times. I guess now it will be pointed out again (perhaps this time it will be corrected, I don't expect him to listen to me). And it took a couple of hours but I did get the email with confirmatory URL link. It also included a unique tracking number so I can check on its status. -g
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    Re: ICANN Rips VeriSign Over Whois Violations
    by michael (froomkin@lawUNSPAM.tm) on Wednesday September 04 2002, @02:35AM (#9008)
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    You don't need a court order. The UDRP works fine; if the contact info is false, D. fails to respond and even if the claim has no merit you tend to win by default. UDRP is much cheaper than a court order too...
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