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    Re: ICANN Makes Nice to ccTLDs (Again)
    by Elisabeth on Sunday July 11 2004, @12:39PM (#13919)
    User #3971 Info
    Maybe ICANN appears to make nice, but ICANN still do not understand what are his and ccTLD common interests.

    Did you mention there is no more direct dialog between ICANN and ccTLDs? ICANN removed any URL from its websites to ccTLD regional organizations (CENTR, APTLD, AFTLD, LACTLD, NATLD and global wwTLD www.wwtld.org).

    The only remaining channel of communication is the press, and actualy TheRegister has been publishing good articles.

    BTW, there are two ccTLD agendas for KL and good ITU-T/ccTLD workshop.
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    The ccTLDs are Finished There is No Market or $$$
    by Anonymous on Sunday July 11 2004, @07:05PM (#13920)
    The 2-letter TLDs that have market value, such
    as .TV, are being developed by companies such
    as Verisign.

    The 2-letter TLDs with no market value, are
    slowly being removed from the various root
    zones. Many of those are viewed as ccTLDs and
    fund a small collection of ICANN groupies to
    show up at all of the parties.

    The real action is the secret allocations of
    the single-letter TLDs. The mobile phone
    companies are all over those, because their
    customers do not want to type long names on
    small keypads.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    .COM and .NET and the Coming Front-End Services
    by Anonymous on Tuesday July 13 2004, @05:32AM (#13936)
    Vinton Cerf is telling everyone that 4-letter TLDs
    (like .INFO) do not work. You might as well forget
    all TLDs with more than 3-letters.

    Paul Twinkie is telling everyone that .BIZ is a
    failure. He is of course working his GAC Community
    to promote 2-letter TLDs. The 2-letter TLDs are
    mostly picked over with only a few (.TV .AM .FM)
    achieving any wide-spread usage. .ORG is a lost cause with operational problems
    and no support from any serious telecommunication
    companies. Not even the RIRs (ARIN, RIPE and
    APNIC) use the .ORG TLD. They use .NET, even
    though they claim to be non-profit.

    That pretty much leaves .COM and .NET. People
    might as well get used to the fact that it is a
    two-TLD world. From a banking point of view, this
    is like viewing the world as Visa and Mastercard.
    The rest of the business is not interesting.

    Starting with .COM and .NET one can start to
    rebuild using Front-End Services. Just as PayPal
    created their own "currency" (and brand) as a
    Front-End to Visa and Mastercard, companies can
    now rely on .COM and .NET to be the foundation
    for a variety of Front-End Services.

    The Registrars really do not like .COM and .NET
    because they do not profit from those. There is
    no money fighting for 20 cent mark-ups on a
    $6 per year regulated product. The Registrars
    make their real money by preying on consumers
    who forget to renew registrations. They charge
    hourly fees to *help* the consumer get back
    online. Since many of the .ORG owners are not
    net-savy, they are more desirable to the
    Registrars who now work the drop-queues and
    warehouse names hoping to redirect e-mails to
    their servers where they can review them and
    find out if the domain has any value. The e-mails
    can of course be returned or forwarded for a fee.

    The .COM and .NET owners are more net-savy and
    do not allow their names to fall into Registrar's
    hands. The 10-year registrations allow them to
    pay $60 and not worry for a long time. The .COM
    and .NET owners could easily deal directly with
    the Registry or have their Reseller (Web-Host/ISP)
    company handle the transaction. That is exactly
    what existed PRIOR to the ICANN-regime of DNS
    regulation. There is no need for ICANN to be
    involved in .COM and .NET. No one cares what
    ICANN does with the 2-letter TLDs. All of the
    focus is now on .COM and .NET.

    Verisign and Microsoft of course have studied
    this and done their market research and see that
    Front-End Services will be the next wave. Since
    some of those Front-End Services benefit from
    more rapid updates of the DNS TLD servers it
    should be no surprise that Verisign would be
    enhancing .COM and .NET TLD servers to handle
    that trend.

    Just as Windows overlayed DOS as a Front-End
    Extension, the new Front-End Services will
    assume only .COM and .NET and will be an overlay
    which will give consumers the illusion of a
    system that ICANN (IANA) does not want them
    to see. Fortunately, with the backing of
    Verisign and Microsoft, via .COM and .NET,
    the world can move forward and ignore ICANN
    and their small closed "community".
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]

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