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Lauren was on the Art Bell show a short while ago talking this up.
That's right, Art Bell. And Lauren played it up as a huge conspiracy and pontificated upon how the sky was falling.
I lost all respect at that point, and chose not to attend as a result.
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This is a Dave Farber Event - For Postel Followers
Dave Farber helped to secretly create ICANN. He was Jon Postel's Ph.D. thesis advisor. One of Dave Farber's companies operates the .ORG cash-cow, and 20+ other TLDs. Dave Farber claims to be a university professor. He was employed by the FCC during the Clinton regime. He parlayed his U.S. Government position, and cronyism with Jon Postel into monopoly control over TLDs.
It is ironic that Dave Farber was also one of the prime people advocating that the U.S. Government DOJ should bring down the evil empire Bill Gates created, called Microsoft. Dave Farber claimed Microsoft has monopoly power.
Dave Farber does not seem to be concerned about having monopoly control of .ORG. Could that be because .ORG is being removed from modern (sell-to-the-market) root zones ?
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Will the Internet Meltdown ?
That depends on what you consider to be "the Internet".
If you consider "the Internet" to be the corrupt
legacy system controlled by academic/government
cronies, who have devised ways to quietly tax the
netizens and restrain trade and prevent innovation,
*of course* that Internet will Meltdown. It should.
The North American free marketplace has no
interest in supporting (funding) *that* Internet.
Third-world countries may still be conned into
being part of that aging Internet. They may still
be wowed by visits from senile academics who
tell them the Internet is for everyone.
A new generation of netizens, especially in
North America, will build around the edges and
ignore the melting core.
In an ironic twist, it is **education** which
helps the new generation of netizens route
around the legacy core. That education does not
come from the people funded to provide that
education. The funded educators are too busy
protecting their funding to educate students.
The students are left to find education via
the .NET and they easily discover the corruption
at the core of their educational system and
learn to route around it.
The sum total of enlightened people, educating
themselves, and making the discoveries and
routing around the corrupt core, renders the
core irrelevant. The network of enlightened
people, then form the .NET, and **that** is
viewed by those enlightened people as
THE Internet. It is their Internet. They own
the PCs and Servers and in many cases, there
are no wires or fibers needed to connect them.
The old-school clerics and zealots and people
with little propeller driven beanies can gather
and pontificate about what is *the Internet*.
They can also debate how many angels can dance
on the head of a pin. As long as they waste their
time and stay far away from the real Internet,
the damage they do is minimal.
The key is education and another key is to make
sure that netizens are not working to fund the
melting core. People are voting with their time
and dollars. That causes the core to melt faster.
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...familiar to long-time followers of newsgroups and other online forums:
"Death of Internet predicted... film at 11."
(Sometimes "Usenet" is used instead of "Internet", for newsgroup discussions.)
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http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg05556. html [merit.edu]
"In other words, customer is asking a court to rule whether or not IP space should be portable, when an industry-supported organization (ARIN) has made policy that the space is in fact not portable. It can be further argued that the court could impose a TRO that would potentially negatively affect the operation of my network.
NAC does not want to be forced to rely on a customer's ability to properly make complex routing updates that if done improperly could disrupt the entire NAC network. We believe there is a great danger to NAC that their routing mistakes could take down some or all of our network infrastructure."
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When Bill Gates Invented the Internet all he
had was a program called Command.COM. That is
where .COM comes from. He called his Command.COM
program an Operating System and people believed
him.
Since people are so gullible, it looks like it
is time to start a .NET movement. Maybe .NET
should be called an Operating System. That
strategy seemed to work last time.
Chapter One
When Bill Gates invented the .NET
--to be continued--
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Vint Cerf: Net's moving into iron age
Internet pioneer Vint Cerf contends that the Internet is still early in its evolution, in the process of moving from a figurative stone age to an iron age. Cerf, who is senior vice president of technology strategy at MCI, stewards the Net in his role as ICANN chairman. In our recent Face to Face interview, Cerf talked with me about the Internet's future and outlined his views on spam, privacy, IPv6 and interplanetary networking. He also answered the question, "Who should run the Internet?" http://ct.com.com/click?q=fa-FmqNQhO3Y5MZZIF1tKYlo JWpeLsR
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Spam is a huge problem. Important email is now routinely deleted, unread, because it's hard to siphon through 300 spam emails every morning without accidentally deleting important non-spam messages.
New TLDs are hardly known, and largely held by speculators, severely hindering development in the .info, .biz, and .us arenas. The registries have evaded their responsibilities to market their respective TLDs, but they also just laugh it off, knowing ICANN will do nothing about it.
You can poopoo these points all you want, but they are true. Vint Cerf rationalizes ICANN's lack of action on these issues with some nonsense about how the Internet is in its infancy ... blah blah blah. 20+ years old doesn't sound like infancy to me.
So no, there will be no "meltdown", but there is surely a stunted growth factor. Until cancers like spam and unworthy registries are excoriated from the Internet, progress will be measured in everso tiny increments.
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What TLDs Does Dave Farber Operate ?
Can someone provide a complete list ?
.ORG .PW .LA .TRAVEL .XXX
They claim to operate over 20 TLDs. Are they including all of the New.Net TLDs ? ???
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.KIDS Continue to be Used as .PAWNS in DNS Wars
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/press/2004/kidsus forum_06172004.htm [doc.gov] Commerce to Host July 14 Forum on Child-Friendly Web Sites
Forum Will Showcase Development of New .kids.us Web Sites
The Commerce Department’s National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) will host a half‑day forum from 9:00 a.m. to 1:15 p.m. on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 to discuss the development of the .kids.us Internet domain, which is home to a number of child-friendly Web sites. The forum will detail the current uses and applications of the domain and the development of attractive future content for the space.
“.Kids.us holds great promise as a place where parents and children can turn for content that is free from inappropriate material,” said Acting Assistant Secretary of Commerce for Communications and Information Michael D. Gallagher. “This forum will bring together a number of those involved in the development of child-friendly content to showcase the potential of those Web sites for parents and educators and what is being done to develop content that appeals to kids.”
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ICANN will be told to "take a hike" in ASPEN
http://www.pff.org/aspensummit/aspen2004/registrat ion.html
[pff.org]
H-P, Warner Execs. to Open Aspen Summit
Aug 22-24 Event Focuses on Future of the Internet
WASHINGTON D.C. - Barry M. Meyer, chairman and CEO of Warner Brothers Entertainment, and Shane V. Robison, EVP and chief strategy and technology officer of Hewlett-Packard Company, will deliver opening keynote speeches at the 10th annual Aspen Summit sponsored by The Progress & Freedom Foundation. Both executives will speak on Sunday, August 22, the first day of the three-day gathering of top Internet and technology leaders in Aspen, Colorado.
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Michael Moore ought to consider doing a film titled "Fahrenheit ICANN".
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ICABN thru IANA has responsibility for port numbers. Modern virii, trojans, worms, et al enter via open ports. Why can't Vinton deal with this problem by making most ports illegal? -g
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The U.S. DOC has clearly learned to play the Internet Society game. Let's all go to Ireland and create companies (like Afilias) and launder all of the profits thru Ireland and Swiss bank accounts while creating the illusion that this creates jobs (not wealth) in the U.S.
http://www.commerce.gov/opa/press/2004_Releases/Ju ne/25_Evans_ireland_release.htm
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Friday, June 25, 2004
U.S. COMMERCE SECRETARY IN IRELAND TO PROMOTE EUROPEAN TRADE TO HELP GROW AMERICAN JOBS
IRELAND –U.S. Commerce Secretary Donald L. Evans is in Ireland to participate in the U.S.-E.U. Summit and will meet with the Transatlantic Business Dialogue (TABD) to discuss ways to increase investment and create a barrier-free transatlantic market to help grow American jobs.
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If ICANN adopts this service, Verisign could read all of the e-mail sent to/from ICANN to help Verisign build their cases in court against ICANN, which Verisign funds.
http://www.computerweekly.com/articles/article.asp ?liArticleID=131608
VeriSign introduces e-mail, antiphishing services
"To use the service, VeriSign customers will modify the mail exchange (or 'MX') record for their e-mail domain to point to VeriSign's Email Security Service servers."
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Will ICANN be doing Be-Headings Next ?
Back in the Jon Postel days, Jon supported people [via his IAHC committee] who publicly advocated that people should be "be-headed" for opposing the IANA and the Internet Society.
Don Heath, the President of the ISOC called the postings "colorfull". The rest of the IAHC story is history.
Now, Vinton Cerf, the Chairman of ICANN is calling for public flogging of people that he suggests people entrap via sting operations. You can listen to his video taped comments.
http://news.com.com/1606-2-5239781.html [com.com]
Why is the U.S. Government supporting such a monster as Vinton Cerf ?
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.ORG is Any-Casted Network Operators are Clueless
People who claim they are Network Operators are clueless when it comes to the simple fact that the .ORG TLD servers have been Any-Casted.
http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg05979. html [merit.edu]
Being Any-Casted means that there are not really any specific .ORG TLD Servers, but instead a couple of IP addresses which are located BEHIND ISP's firewalls (or on the firewall/server itself).
ifconfig eth0:0 204.69.234.1 ifconfig eth0:1 204.74.101.1
All .ORG traffic is then kept local in the ISP or the country. For large, walled-garden, services like AOL, MSN, etc. they can control what .ORG names are visible. They could also charge .ORG owners a fee to be visible or maybe a fee to be not listed. Note, people pay phone companies to not be listed.
Note, the ICANN Board and that special team of ICANN **experts** called the Security team also have no clue how Any-Cast impacts .ORG. Apparently, they approved the approach in secret in conjunction with the Internet Society and that sham .ORG company, PIR-something which has a bunch of advisors that also know very little about the DNS and Any-Cast.
Now, network operators are seeing wide-spread .ORG operational problems and they do not know why. As usual, ICANN is silent on technical matters which of course are discussed in secret.
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The ISOC insiders (Cerf, Crocker, etc.) have recently been making the rounds in China attempting to sell them on the ISOC's poorly designed and deployed IPv6 protocol.
China now is sending Cerf and the ISOC a clear answer, which often is not presented in person.
http://www.chinatechnews.com/index.php?action=show &type=news&id=1405 [chinatechnews.com] China's New Generation Of Ipv9 Network Technology Ready July 2, 2004
At the New Generation Internet Ten-Digit Network Industrialization & Development Seminar held on June 25th at Zhejiang University, it was announced that China's Internet technology, IPv9, had been formally adapted and popularized into the civil and commercial sectors. *******
One has to wonder if Vinton Cerf will be calling for the public flogging of all Chinese people in the U.S. ?
http://news.com.com/1606-2-5239781.html [com.com]
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Subject: Response to John Gilmore To: dave@farber.net, Declan McCullagh From: "Joe Sims" Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:15:56 -0400
Since John Gilmore chooses to use my name in his imaginary history of how we got to where we are, I thought it would be appropriate to lay out the real facts. Since both of you published the original interview, perhaps you would think it appropriate to publish this response.
Perhaps Gilmore once had (or maybe still has)something to offer of value, but that does not include either political science or history. In the World According to Gilmore, Vint Cerf is a traitor, Jon Postel was a coward, and ICANN is just another manifestation of the military-industrial complex at work. Karl Auerbach is the modern day Martha Mitchell (I agree there is some resemblance), and Joe Sims has single-handedly manipulated this process to earn enormous fees for him and his law firm. It makes for a great story, and to people like Gilmore, and publications like Salon, I suppose it is just an inconvenience that it is almost total fantasy.
Let's get rid of the greedy lawyer canard up front. This point simply reveals Gilmore's lack of understanding of the law business. I was fully occupied before I was retained by Jon Postel, and would also be so today if I was not representing ICANN. The notion that I or Jones Day, which provided more than $1 million of pro bono time to Jon Postel, and has since the formation of ICANN provided its services at cost, is doing this for money is a joke. For one thing, there is not enough money in the world to put up with the unadulterated BS of Gilmore and his more personally offensive colleagues. The opportunity to avoid the daily garbage spewed out by those, like Gilmore, that either don't know better or don't care what the real facts are, is highly appealing to me. As I have already indicated, as soon as this reform process has reached a point where I feel that I can retreat from this warzone, I plan to retire from this effort. ==============
RSN - Real Soon Now
Note: Joe Simms is billing ICANN at full rates in the current Verisign litigation.
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Re: Who broke .org?
* From: Jeff Wasilko
* Date: Sat Jul 03 11:24:39 2004
On Sat, Jul 03, 2004 at 06:45:44AM -0700, Bill Woodcock wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Jeff Wasilko wrote: > > Can't we just go back to non-anycast, please? > > Uh, how much additional down-time did you want? Rolling the clock back a > decade isn't going to make things _better_.
Why do you say that? .com and .net seem to work just fine without the extreme reliance on 2 anycasted servers (i.e. they are serving up 13 different NS records). I realize .com/.net may be using anycast as well, but they've managed to engineer a solution that is stable. .org was pretty reliable when it was being run by the same folks that are still running .com/.net. .org broke one month after it was moved to UltraDNS, and has since broken at least 4 times (based on reports to NANOG). How many times have there been significant outages in .com/.net in the past 10-11 months?
Wouldn't there be a huge uproar (a-la sitefinder) if .com/.net were as unreliable as .org has been?
-j (wishing his domain wasn't in .org anymore)
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ARIN is now making laws (ARIN laws) which only allow ISPs to do things ARIN wants the ISPs to do, such as look up information via only certain services and servers. ISPs are supposed to be the **customer**. ARIN treats them like an annoyance or a prisoner.
http://www.arin.net/policy/2003_5.html [arin.net]
"In the future, there may be other distributed lookup services that ARIN may allow ISPs to use. These new services must be approved by ARIN before being allowed to serve as a repository for reassignment information."
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New Reality Internet Show Launching July 26 ?
Unsuspecting control-freaks and ISOC uber-thugs are being invited to gather in LA for the launching of a new Reality Internet Show.
Who will be the first to be voted ON TO the ICANN Board ? and OFF the show and .NET.
Will anyone notice Esther appearing from time to time in sophisticated disguises accompanied by Jon ?
http://www.pfir.org/meltdown [pfir.org]
Internet Governance, Control, and Coordination
- PFIR: Welcome and Overview - Scott Bradner (Harvard University): Internet Governance Issues - Frannie Wellings (EPIC and Public Voice): WSIS - Richard Hill (ITU): Discussions of Internet Governance - Susan P. Crawford (Cardozo School of Law): The Accountable Net Concept - Karl Auerbach: Beyond ICANN and DNS - Howard Schmidt (Former White House Deputy Cybersecurity Czar): Cybersecurity Futures - Maria Shkarlat (InterNews/Ukraine): Threats to Internet Viability in the Former Soviet Union Paul Vixie (ISC) Brad Templeton (EFF) Brett Glass Jim Horning (McAfee Research) Lauren Weinstein (PFIR) Ed Felten (Princeton University) Michael Froomkin (University of Miami School of Law) Wendy Seltzer (EFF) Carrie Lowe (ALA)
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Under the terms of the current ASO Memorandum of Understanding (MoU), the next election for an Asia-Pacific seat on the ASO Address Council is due to be held during the APNIC 18 meeting in Fiji in September 2004.
However, the Number Resource Organization (NRO) and ICANN have signed a letter of intent to form a new ASO MoU, which is expected to finalised sometime in the next few months.
This new MoU will have implications for the structure of the Address Council, and therefore, the APNIC Executive Council has decided to defer the AC election, pending a final outcome in the MoU negotiations.
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How the Pork (or PORG) will be spread around.
Randy Bush and John Klensin are of course the
shadow figures behind the "Network Startup Resource Center". Funding (Pork) from the U.S.
National Science Foundation has paid for their
fun and games for years.
http://www.pir.org/news/
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July 5, 2004: ISOC LAUNCHES NEW ccTLD WORKSHOPS
Geneva, Switzerland - The Internet Society (ISOC) recently held the first in a series of new workshops for country code Top Level Domain (ccTLD) operators.
The success of the event was due to the enthusiasm of all who participated and to the efforts of organiser Mirjam Kuehne (ISOC), instructors Lucy Lynch (University of Oregon), Joe Abley and Suzanne Woolf (ISC), Frederico Neves (Registro.br), Jaap Akkerhuis (SIDN), John Crain (IANA/ICANN), Olaf Kolkman (RIPE NCC) and Alain Aina (Technologies Reseaux & Solutions, Togo). Event hosting and administrative support was provided by the RIPE NCC and Michiel Leenaars of the ISOC Netherlands chapter.
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This has to be the best part.
"Participants had the opportunity to learn not only how to set up the required technical infrastructure, but also how to interact with bodies such as IANA and ICANN - the practical details of knowing who to talk to"
Translation: Just talk to "the right people".
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Ah, so the true agenda of the "Meltdown" Conference comes out, NAT (IPv8) Bashing.
And of course, the .EDU Postel People arrive with a non-viable solution that will never compete with the IPv9 (Cisco/Linksys) Routers now flowing out of China. -------
July 26, 2004 Preventing the Internet Meltdown I'm in LA at PFIR's "Preventing the Internet Meltdown" conference. I'll report here (when the NATted Net isn't melting down), and I'd also be watching Susan Crawford, Ed Felten, Mary Bridges, Karl Auerbach, and Michael Froomkin.
Posted by Wendy at July 26, 2004 12:04 PM | TrackBack
Comments On Monday, the first day of Preventing the Internet Meltdown, as Wendy reports above, the NAT melted the Internet access down.
It has been unfortunate that there has been so little discussion of current meltdowns like this. NATs are like the weather; everyone talks about them, but nobody seems to do anything about them.
FYI, I installed USC/ISI's TetherNet (http://www.isi.edu/tethernet ) to restore network connectivity, as a bit of 'climate control'. TetherNet connects to a NAT'd Internet connection and un-does what a NAT does. The room has since been on the _real_ Internet, with real, routable IP addresses, forward _and_ reverse DNS, etc.
Joe
Posted by: on July 27, 2004 08:56 AM
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