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    Yet Another .ORG Debate, 99% of the People Ignore
    by Anonymous on Friday May 21 2004, @04:14AM (#13622)
    This is yet another .ORG Debate that 99% of the
    people ignore. The .ORG People are certainly an
    evolved race, they live on their own planet. As
    noted recently on the IETF list*, "they are asked
    to use the Service Entrance" at hotels they visit
    because they "scare the other guests". It does not
    take long for people to see that .ORG people are
    an unsavory group to be avoided. One easy way to
    do that is to remove the .ORG TLD from the list
    of TLDs a family uses. Children then are not
    exposed to the anti-social behaviors of the .ORG
    People.

    In place of .ORG, the new TLDs** being offered by
    a wide range of companies can help augment the
    root zone. These can help to show children and
    families that there is diversity and that people
    can be civilized, in real life, and on the .NET.
    The .ORG People can remain on their own planet
    and have their time-wasting debates, with their
    own, like-minded population. The world can be
    educated to boycott .ORG businesses, foundations,
    media and social gatherings (or anti-social
    gatherings). The .ORG People will never go away,
    they can proudly carry their "brand", helping
    to warn anyone that happens to get near their
    planet that they are headed toward a black-hole
    of time-wasting debates which never end.

    **From http://www.RegisterFLY.com
    ALL New.Net extensions on sale - On sale for only $9.99

    * http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg 25161.html
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    http://B.ORG
    by Anonymous on Friday May 21 2004, @04:21AM (#13623)
    http://B.ORG

    The Borg have a singular goal, namely the consumption of technology, rather than wealth or political expansion as most species seek. According to their spokesman, in the form of an assimilated Captain Jean-Luc Picard, the Borg only want to "raise the quality of life" of the species they "assimilate." Androids, for example, they view as primitive and obsolete. Born humanoid, they are almost immediately implanted with bio-chips that link their brains to a collective consciousness via a unique subspace frequency emitted by each drone. This collective consciousness is experienced by the Borg as "thousands" of voices — they are collectively aware, but not aware of themselves as separate individuals. Consequently, they never speak in singular pronouns, referring to themselves when required as merely "Third of Five," for instance.

    http://B.ORG
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    The Borg are the absolute personification of evil
    by Anonymous on Friday May 21 2004, @04:28AM (#13624)
    The Borg are the absolute personification of evil in the galaxy. Their singular goal for biological and technological perfection compels them to assimilate all that stand in their way. They destroy without mercy, reason or conscience. Once assimilated, each alien species contributes their biological and technological distinctiveness to the collective, and help bring order to the chaos... Resistance is futile.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Domain Name:B.ORG DELETE PROHIBITED
    by Anonymous on Friday May 21 2004, @04:35AM (#13625)
    [whois.publicinterestregistry.net]

    Domain ID:D593734-LROR
    Domain Name:B.ORG
    Created On:01-Dec-1993 05:00:00 UTC
    Last Updated On:09-Dec-2002 13:14:07 UTC
    Expiration Date:08-Dec-2003 16:53:16 UTC
    Sponsoring Registrar:R193-LROR
    Status:INACTIVE
    Status:DELETE PROHIBITED
    Status:RENEW PROHIBITED
    Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
    Status:UPDATE PROHIBITED
    Registrant ID:193-C
    Registrant Name:SEE SPONSORING REGISTRAR
    Registrant Street1:Whois Server:whois.iana.org
    Registrant Street2:Referral URL:res-dom.iana.org
    Registrant City:N/A
    Registrant Postal Code:N/A
    Registrant Country:CA
    Registrant Email:not@available.org
    Admin ID:193-C
    Admin Name:SEE SPONSORING REGISTRAR
    Admin Street1:Whois Server:whois.iana.org
    Admin Street2:Referral URL:res-dom.iana.org
    Admin City:N/A
    Admin Postal Code:N/A
    Admin Country:CA
    Admin Email:not@available.org
    Tech ID:193-C
    Tech Name:SEE SPONSORING REGISTRAR
    Tech Street1:Whois Server:whois.iana.org
    Tech Street2:Referral URL:res-dom.iana.org
    Tech City:N/A
    Tech Postal Code:N/A
    Tech Country:CA
    Tech Email:not@available.org
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    Put Tim in the W3.COOP and throw away the key.
    by Anonymous on Friday May 21 2004, @05:12AM (#13627)
    Put Tim in the W3.COOP and throw away the key.

    He can share an area of the courtyard with Esther.

    Note the .COM.COM

    http://zdnet.com.com/1606-2-5214391.html

    That is confusing. The ICANN thought police better
    get that stopped as soon as possible.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    ICANNWatch.com/net/org
    by GeorgeK on Friday May 21 2004, @09:21AM (#13631)
    User #3191 Info | http://www.kirikos.com/
    For example, the paper is based on the false assertion that if a company has example.com it has a real need for example.tld.

    Ironically, ICANNWatch has the .com, .net AND .org all locked up. :)

    I agree with Tim that .mobi would be a poor choice of a new TLD, especially due to the "device independence" section of the document.

    Of all the proposed sTLDs, I think only .tel and .post have any strength (although, the implementation of them are still open to debate). I'd vote against all the rest as simply being too ugly and causing namespace pollution.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Not!
    by jimrutt on Wednesday May 26 2004, @01:19PM (#13644)
    User #3264 Info

    while the argument against .mobi has some merit, the more general attack on generic TLDs is considerably off base.

    Only a handful of "famous marks" have the need to purchase the various gTLDs (and many of them already register many of the CCs where they can, dwarfing the issue of a few more gTLDs). Of course the costs associated would be negligible for players of that scale.

    For the vast preponderance of the millions of domain name holders: private individuals, proto-companies, and small companies additional gTLDs provides a real opportunity for companies and people to get the exact name they want, which is often much more important than the TLD. For examples I have personally registered "red-neck.net" (heh heh!), and one of my small portfolio companies uses fiducianet.biz, irrespective that someone else has fiducianet.com.

    That more gTLDs puts a miniscule tax (tell 'em to use godaddy, as I do these days!) on a few "famous marks" seems to me much less important than letting 10s of millions of individuals and small businesses and organizations get their best name.

    I'm frankly surprised that TBL has swallowed the party line of the big boys at the expense of the real users of the Net.

    ===================== been there, done that
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