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    It is really hard to imagine that humans have
    by Anonymous on Monday April 19 2004, @08:32PM (#13409)
    It is really hard to imagine that humans have created the layers and layers of useless verbage emodied in the ICANN web-site.

    Can anyone imagine what it must be like to be on the staff of ICANN ?
    Do the people commute to work ?
    Do they work from home ? while watching TV all day ?

    Do they spend time sorting their photos from their last trip ?

    Do they take long lunches to go shopping for that next wardrobe for the next travel junket ?

    It is hard to imagine that people fund such a group to sit around and watch the paint dry all day.

    At what point do the funders (like Veri$ign) stop sending the checks to see if anything happens ?

    At what point does the paper tiger fold ?
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    How the Internet REALLY works or does NOT work.
    by Anonymous on Monday April 19 2004, @09:55PM (#13411)
    Consider the following statement from Dan Tobias.

    http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-travel/msg00 006.html

    "Several commenters in the .TRAVEL (and .XXX) sections make claims of owning names in those TLDs already, and ask (or demand) that their "ownership" rights be respected by the prospective registry, with (sometimes) threats of lawsuits if they are not. However, since .TRAVEL and .XXX have, up until now, not existed in the namespace of the Internet, nobody owns them."

    Along with the statement is an ad for DAN.INFO.

    Digging into the DNS shows that DAN.INFO is really owned and operated by DREAMHOST.COM, via the sub-net. ;; ANSWER SECTION:
    www.dan.info. 14400 IN A ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
    dan.info. 86328 IN NS ns2.dreamhost.com.
    dan.info. 86328 IN NS ns3.dreamhost.com.
    dan.info. 86328 IN NS ns1.dreamhost.com.


    OrgName: DreamHost
    OrgID: NDN
    Address: 5610 S. Soto St.
    City: Huntington Park
    StateProv: CA
    PostalCode: 90255
    Country: US

    NetRange: -

    By blocking all routing for the sub-net, DAN.INFO and likely some other sites will no longer **exist** on the Internet supported by New.Net advocates.

    As many New.Net advocates have noted, they prefer that the 180,000,000 plus people who have access to their names are MORE desirable than the other part of the net that has no desire to see their names. As one New.Net supporter said, "Would you rather have a cool domain name that some people actually use or a .COM name that no one uses?"

    What is likely to evolve is that Broadband users will become community that benefits from enjoying the New.Net names, and also benefits from not having the traffic from sub-nets such as Because of that, filters can easily make sure that the Broadband community is enhanced with a less is more approach.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Routing to Third-World Countries
    by Anonymous on Tuesday April 20 2004, @09:23AM (#13415)
    The TLD does not matter.

    Routing is all that really matters.

    It makes no sense to attempt to route Broadband, always-on, Internet services to Third-World Countries.

    The /16 address blocks can be reclaimed for Broadband networks. Once there is no routing, the ccTLD servers can not be reached. Once that happens, there is no more ccTLD.

    In many cases, SPAM from ccTLDs such as .ZA will end. Why do people want to receive emails from some kook in Africa ?
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    4 Years ? while others are denied access ?
    by Anonymous on Tuesday April 20 2004, @02:47PM (#13416)
    http://www.icann.org/minutes/resolutions-19apr04.h tm

    Whereas the Effective Date of the .pro Registry Agreement was 3 May 2002.

    Whereas the Registry Services Corporation dba RegistryPro has announced that it scheduled to go live on 1 June 2004, and has requested delegation of .pro to its name servers no later than 24 May 2004.

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Who supports all of the SPAM you receive from ZA ?
    by Anonymous on Tuesday April 20 2004, @07:24PM (#13417)
    Who supports all of the SPAM you receive from ZA ?

    za. 86400 IN NS rain.psg.com.
    za. 86400 IN NS hippo.ru.ac.za.
    za. 86400 IN NS auth00.ns.uu.net.
    za. 86400 IN NS ns-ext.vix.com.
    za. 86400 IN NS ucthpx.uct.ac.za.
    za. 86400 IN NS munnari.oz.au.
    za. 86400 IN NS ns.ripe.net.

    As users decide that they no longer want to support that type of traffic, their easiest path of applying a filter is to exclude the /16 subnets used by the nameservers for that TLD.

    As one example, enters the filters.

    rain.psg.com. 172800 IN A

    route add -net netmask gw

    The SPAM fades away very quickly.

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Where is the .BIZ Proof-of-Concept Report ?
    by Anonymous on Wednesday April 21 2004, @08:00PM (#13424)
    Where is the .BIZ Proof-of-Concept Report ?



    Where are the millions of .BIZ names being used ?

    http://www.icann.org/tlds/agreements/biz/registry- agmt-appm-11may01.htm

    Bona Fide Business or Commercial Use. "Bona fide business or commercial use" shall mean the bona fide use or bona fide intent to use the domain name or any content software, materials, graphics or other information thereon, to permit Internet users to access one or more host computers through the DNS:

            (i) to exchange goods, services, or property of any kind; or

            (ii) in the ordinary course of trade or business; or

            (iii) to facilitate the exchange of goods, services, information, or property of any kind or the ordinary course of trade or business.
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