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    Re:I guess news travels slowly in ICANN
    by Anonymous on Monday March 15 2004, @02:12PM (#13201)
    "Further, I wish someone would give me a good reason why a technically adept company with a killer product can't bring its product public."

    Perhaps the reasons are the same as those for not allowing anyone to haphazardly start a new phone numbering system and comingle it with the current systems. Sure, it can be done, but the safe bet is to regulate it so not everyone can.

    "Stability" means more than just consistant dependable hardware. Stability also has to do with ease of use and lack of confusion. Including ccTLDs, there are over 250 extensions, and the vast majority of netizens only know of two or three ... pathetic at best.

    What's clearer by the minute is the increased power of speculators and defensive registrants. Registries know they can count on a certain amount of speculative and defensive registrations/renewals, even if no one else ever knows about the extension.

    The last round (.info, .biz, .us) of TLDs illustrated how deeply entrenched speculators are in the system, all the way to the boardroom at the registry and registrar levels.

    In my opinion, allowing IOD's .WEB into the fold only adds another of these opportunities for speculators at the consumer, registrar, and registry levels. Not too long ago I noticed Chris Ambler hanging in the domain speculator forum(s) (dnforum.com, domainstate.com), actively participating in the "drop catching" game, to some extent. How bad does it look when everyone is bitching and moaning about Hal Lubsen, Moshe Fogel, Govinda Leopold, and other ethically-challenged folks from ICANN-accredited registrars and registries, and ICANN accredits another that has the earmarks of a speculators opportunity ...it doesn't look very smart.

    ICANN had better clean house before making any more mistakes with additional TLDs.

    If ICANN's judgement is as bad as everyone claims, why in the world isn't everyone screaming for no new TLDs until ICANN gets its act together? Because no one cares about ICANN's incompetence as long as THEIR registry is awarded a new TLD.

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    Re:I guess news travels slowly in ICANN by Anonymous
    Re:I guess news travels slowly in ICANN
    by Anonymous on Tuesday March 16 2004, @04:11PM (#13203)
    That's really good. Attack the person if you can't attack the proposal. I read those same forums, and it looked to me like he was playing at the same game that everyone does these days. I don't know about you, but I can't fault someone for making a living by consulting, even if it involves expired domain names.

    I don't recall seeing anything in the .WEB proposal that would come even close to the crap that happened with .INFO and .BIZ. And even if so, those problems appear to happen with any domain you add to the root that isn't completely hobbled by policy. Look at .NAME, which was hobbled, and failed terribly. Now they're opening up the 2nd level. Same with .PRO. Your argument casts a shadow on all new TLDs, not just .WEB. So do you propose tossing them all?

    Seems to me, if IOD had been approved and Afilias sent packing, things would have worked out much better. They certainly couldn't have been worse!
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