Inside ICANNWatch  
Submit Story
Lost Password
Site Messages
Top 10 Lists
Latest Comments
Search by topic

Our Mission
ICANN for Beginners
About Us
How To Use This Site
Slash Tech Info
Link to Us
Write to Us

  Useful ICANN sites  
  • ICANN itself
  • Bret Fausett's ICANN Blog
  • Internet Governance Project
  • UN Working Group on Internet Governance
  • Karl Auerbach web site
  • Müller-Maguhn home
  • UDRPinfo.com;
  • UDRPlaw.net;
  • CircleID;
  • LatinoamerICANN Project
  • ICB Tollfree News

  •   At Large Membership and Civil Society Participation in ICANN  
  • icannatlarge.com;
  • Noncommercial Users Constituency of ICANN
  • NAIS Project
  • ICANN At Large Study Committee Final Report
  • ICANN (non)Members page
  • ICANN Membership Election site

  • ICANN-Related Reading
    Browse ICANNWatch by Subject

    Ted Byfied
    - ICANN: Defending Our Precious Bodily Fluids
    - Ushering in Banality
    - ICANN! No U CANN't!
    - roving_reporter
    - DNS: A Short History and a Short Future

    David Farber
    - Overcoming ICANN (PFIR statement)

    A. Michael Froomkin
    - When We Say US™, We Mean It!
    - ICANN 2.0: Meet The New Boss
    - Habermas@ discourse.net: Toward a Critical Theory of Cyberspace
    - ICANN and Anti-Trust (with Mark Lemley)
    - Wrong Turn in Cyberspace: Using ICANN to Route Around the APA & the Constitution (html)
    - Form and Substance in Cyberspace
    - ICANN's "Uniform Dispute Resolution Policy"-- Causes and (Partial) Cures

    Milton Mueller
    - Ruling the Root
    - Success by Default: A New Profile of Domain Name Trademark Disputes under ICANN's UDRP
    - Dancing the Quango: ICANN as International Regulatory Regime
    - Goverments and Country Names: ICANN's Transformation into an Intergovernmental Regime
    - Competing DNS Roots: Creative Destruction or Just Plain Destruction?
    - Rough Justice: A Statistical Assessment of the UDRP
    - ICANN and Internet Governance

    David Post
    - Governing Cyberspace, or Where is James Madison When We Need Him?
    - The 'Unsettled Paradox': The Internet, the State, and the Consent of the Governed

    Jonathan Weinberg
    - Sitefinder and Internet Governance
    - ICANN, Internet Stability, and New Top Level Domains
    - Geeks and Greeks
    - ICANN and the Problem of Legitimacy

    Highlights of the ICANNWatch Archive
    (June 1999 - March 2001)

    This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
    Positioning for UN Net governance WG Underway | Log in/Create an Account | Top | 5 comments | Search Discussion
    Click this button to post a comment to this story
    The options below will change how the comments display
    Check box to change your default comment view
    The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
    I've also been invited and am going
    by KarlAuerbach on Saturday February 07 2004, @05:29PM (#12951)
    User #3243 Info | http://www.cavebear.com/
    I have also been invited and will be there in Geneva.

    I hope to have my submissions finished within a couple of days.

    My thesis is that the internet is evolving into a utility on which people and entities are basing economic plans, products and services, and increasingly matters involving health and safety. As part of that evolution, I believe that not only do our engineering practices have to evolve (See my presentation "From Barnstorming to Boeing - Transforming the Internet Into a Lifeline Utility" (slides) [cavebear.com] (speakers notes) [cavebear.com]) but I also believe that we need to consider how to ensure that the net's infrastructure remains stable and dependable into the future without badly compromising the ability of the still nascent net to evolve.

    My presentations will deal with several questions.

    First is, "what is the internet?" If we are talking about governance, we really ought to identify what it is that we are planning on governing. In that I will be emphasizing the value of the end-to-end principle.

    Second is an analysis of those parts of the internet that are in need of oversight - now by the word "oversight" I don't necessarily mean heavy handed, full blown government-like bodies.

    In most cases, if we carefully define the job that is being overseen the oversight can be pretty lightweight. For example, the actual job of editing and publishing a root zone file isn't something that needs massive and intricate mechanisms for public process before every update. Indeed, for many jobs, such as allocating protocol numbers, public oversight is not particularly necessary.

    The idea is to fit the degree and nature of the oversight to the particular function that is being overseen. See my note at: http://www.cavebear.com/rw/apfi.htm [cavebear.com] to see how I approached this issue a back in mid 2002.

    Of course there are jobs that will require mechanisms in which the public has a real role - particularly issues regarding our old friends, formulation of the policy that is used to admit new gTLDs into the root zone and formulation of the policies regarding things like privacy of registration data.

    There are fuzzy areas - jobs that are being done well (often incredibly well) today but which contain the potential risk that they could wobble in the future. These include IP address allocation, root server operation, and others.

    Implicit in my materials is the implicit assertion that the now-unified ICANN will be split into several separate bodies. I do make it very explicit that I believe that there should be no sharing of staff, office space, resources, or people between those bodies that have policymaking roles.

    I will, of course, strongly advocate that public involvement be relatively direct with no more than one level of representation between the voter/internet-user and the decisionmaker.

    I will also be urging that governance structures be designed to honor what I call The First Law of the Internet [cavebear.com]
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Articles on Slashdot
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Sunday February 08 2004, @09:36PM (#12957)
    User #2810 Info
    Slashdot has two separate articles on this, Moving Net Control From ICANN to Governments? [slashdot.org] and ICANN Troubles At UN Summit On Internet [slashdot.org]. Also see Andy Oram [oreillynet.com]. -g
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]

    Search ICANNWatch.org:

    Privacy Policy: We will not knowingly give out your personal data -- other than identifying your postings in the way you direct by setting your configuration options -- without a court order. All logos and trademarks in this site are property of their respective owner. The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 by ICANNWatch.Org. This web site was made with Slashcode, a web portal system written in perl. Slashcode is Free Software released under the GNU/GPL license.
    You can syndicate our headlines in .rdf, .rss, or .xml. Domain registration services donated by DomainRegistry.com