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    Re:Laugher
    by KarlAuerbach on Monday December 29 2003, @08:00PM (#12802)
    User #3243 Info | http://www.cavebear.com/
    So, I take it that you go to delta.com for your:

    a) Teeth

    b) Plumbing

    c) Airline

    etc?

    The idea of using DNS as a directory is dying, if not already dead.

    Sure, there are those who want "their name" to be in all TLDs. But there's no reason to harm the internet - which is what occurs when the DNS hierarchy is flattened out because there are very few TLDs - because of the hyper possessive mentality of a few trademark-enamoured lawyers.

    Now that we have internationalized domain names we are going to start seeing a lot of names that look like gibberish in any but their native scripts (alphabets). That will, hopefully, drive the final spike into the heart of the notion that domain names are carriers of semantic information and that DNS is a directory system.
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    Re:Laugher by KarlAuerbach
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    Why destroy the best DNS system?
    by Anonymous on Tuesday December 30 2003, @08:43PM (#12805)
    Intentional Fracture of internet identies with new overlapping TLDs only leads to errors, and no benefit. The persons who created DNS many years ago did it right. .gov, .edu, .mil, .uk, .au, these top levels all have meaning. Destroying that meaning would be stupid. The information related by these top levels is beneficial to everyone. Furthermore, People understand this and they can organize destinations and particular hosts in their minds as a result of the structure. This original design takes advantage of the way that human memory works, specifically with regard to association.

    People do understand this (if this is what you mean by directory), it is not nearly dead. It is what people understand. Your attempts to "drive the final spike into the heart" of what it is that works is ignorant. Adding generic, overlapping new top level domains helps noone except for lawyers, and domain sellers, and breaks a beneficial pattern that works to benefit everyone for no good reason.

    delta.com should belong to one registrant. Creating new TLDs (that overlap in purpose) with the TLDs that already exist, will not change this. You solve nothing. But what it will do is create confusion.

    Going from (icannwatch.com = icannwatch.net = icannwatch.org) to (icannwatch.com = icannwatch.net = icannwatch.org = icannwatch.web) benefits only the seller of the new domain. Basically the domain owner is forced to compete with another iteration of its own identity or pony up the dough. This is harmful to the domain owner and the internet user.

    I think that icannwatch.info is advertising godaddy at this time. I am not sure how the .info .com .web situation currenty plays out for Godaddy, I do not have the time to research, however I will just try the .com by default and hopefully I will get the same Godaddy and not some other domain related website.

    The confusion that is created can be easily identified by the review of the log files of any major email server. A common error is one generated when someone ads the wrong tld to the end of the hostname, of an email address. The mail bounces, the internet user often cannot recognize the problem and thinks that email is down or does not realize that the mail was not delivered. A review of the address with the wrong tld, by the original sender that has now received a bounce only confirms the wrong tld in writing back to the users mind. User fails to recognize the problem. The user calls tech support etc etc.

    Having domain with other char sets or gibberish is no justification for destroying the ability for domain to be easily remembered. gibberis is gibberish, everyone recognizes it and it will not affect someone who stumbles across some. This is not what we are talking about.

    The DNS works like a directory tree. Creating many entries at the top will only make the system less useful, like a desktop with a thousand meaningless overlapping folders. And with where we are heading duplicate data inconsistantly in different places wihin the tree.

    You have it backwards, opening many overlapping entries at the very top will flatten out the DNS hierarchy.

    You want to create competition for ever domain owner to compete with themselves or someone else as the user try and keep up.

    More overlapping TLDs is bad for domain owners and surfers period. However, more overlapping TLDs are good for lawyers and lottery ticket salespeople.

    Zooom.
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