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    Re: Old Internet Thinking RIP
    by PeterBarron (pebarron@hotmail.com) on Friday August 30 2002, @07:40AM (#8796)
    User #3240 Info | http://www.icannwatch.org/
    I'm certain that someone will blame me for bringing up the same topic again, but in my research of the past 9 months that I've been consulting on this topic, it comes up time and again.

    In this case, the topic takes the form of the realisation that IMC was treated in the same way as Image Online Design. In both cases they had sound technical plans and followed, as Michael says, the IETF tradition of showing good technical judgement, stable business plans, and an application with obvious merit. In both cases, they were passed over for an incumbant concern with less than desirable technical plans, no business model to speak of, and numerous blank holes in their application maked 'to be determined later'.

    It seems that once again ICANN ignores the pioneers with the experience and standing and gives the contract to the applicant who has the most inside ties.

    ++Peter
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    Re: Old Internet Thinking RIP
    by Anonymous on Friday August 30 2002, @07:51AM (#8798)
    I've read all the proposals, and I completly disagree with you.

    You are completly biased. It seems to me, from your history on this board, that whoever wins or whoever actually DOES have the experiance will always be the bad guy in your eyes.

    It's quite amusing to read your posts sometimes, so keep it up.

    Joe Sebastien

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      Re: Old Internet Thinking RIP
      by PeterBarron (pebarron@hotmail.com) on Friday August 30 2002, @08:20AM (#8801)
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      Would you mind backing up that assessment with some facts? Why do you disagree? Do you feel that IMS's application was technically flawed? How so? Do you dispute that ISOC and Afilias are the inside players? Do you dispute that ISOC's application had holes that you could drive a car through?

      My bias is that I am in favour of more competition from more registries. My bias has been clearly disclosed in that I consult for a company in the UK that wants to be a registry.

      My bias doesn't change the facts, though. If you disagree, I invite you to explain why. Otherwise, you are just attacking me personally. If that's all you have, then allow me to continue to amuse you.

      ++Peter
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      Re: Right on Joe
      by Anonymous on Friday August 30 2002, @08:39AM (#8806)
      Peter is constantly whining about new TLDs, this and that. It is obvious that he's bitter. We've heard his arguments time and again (I could almost recite them verbatim). Peter, I don't agree with you. ISOC will probably do a wonderful job running .org. You still won't be satisfied though.
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        Re: Right on Joe
        by PeterBarron (pebarron@hotmail.com) on Friday August 30 2002, @10:53AM (#8827)
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        It's not a question as to whether they will do a good job or not. I'm sure they will do a fair job. I'm not so sure that Afilias will, but perhaps they have learned from their mistakes.

        What is in question is the entire selection process, which appears to have been nothing more than an excuse to charge US$29,000 eleven times and then award the contract to ISOC as was planned over two years ago.

        This selection round was no more open and fair than the new TLD round was. ICANN have simply become emboldened by their successes at doing these things and getting away with them.

        ++Peter
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      Re: Old Internet Thinking RIP
      by Anonymous on Friday August 30 2002, @10:39AM (#8826)
      He's biased because he has an opinion? Are you any less biased?

      The man doesn't even own a single .web, so what is this so-called "bias" based upon.

      You're an ideologue.

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