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    Section 4.2
    by GeorgeK on Tuesday December 09 2003, @10:07PM (#12732)
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    Section 4.2 will be very useful in the WLS case (or unhelpful, if one shills for Jones Day).
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    Frequent poster?
    by cambler (chris@ambler.net) on Tuesday December 16 2003, @11:23AM (#12748)
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    How amusing. I am lumped into the group of frequent posters as a flamer and someone who made no substantive comments.

    I think the authors of the paper would find, if they bothered to read the posts, that virtually all of my posts were substantive. I was one of the only TLD applicants who bothered to answer questions and be responsive on the public forum, making the presumption that it counted for something.

    So not only did my participation count for nothing, I am now damned for having participated and called unsubstantive (at best).

    I think an apology from the authors is more than in order.

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    Ambler On The Net [ambler.net]

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    • Re:I concur by JPalfrey Tuesday December 16 2003, @12:49PM
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    Re:Interesting study, but.....
    by ldg on Wednesday December 10 2003, @11:59PM (#12738)
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    It would be nearly impossible to determine what a "fringe" element is in this context. ICANN has made little attempt at outreach and the vast majority of the public has no idea what ICANN is or what it does/does not.

    Those who comment are those who are more aware of ICANN and it's true that many are critical - with good reason, IMO. Therefore, it would be incorrect to conclude anything else but that the board pays little attention to public input as the survey pointed out.

    I think it is quite telling that the actual number of posters to the forums is low when compared to the numbers of affected individuals. Whether this is the result of lack of outreach or simply frustration at being ignored is less imporant, IMO. If there were enough outreach and education, there would be a larger response, but still deliberately ignored.

    It is notable that the numbers of posts to the forums by informed individuals has decliced to almost nothing. That would indicate to me that the frustration level has reached the point where people do not wish to waste their time when they will be insulted or ignored by ICANN. The danger is that the lack of communication via the public interfaces will be taken as a green light for ICANN to forge ahead without considering internet users at-large. At the same time, it leaves more room for the UN and ITO supporters to move further toward a power grab that will further disenfranchise individuals and empower governments to force even worse top-down measures.

    Lose-lose?

    In a more perfect world, a survey like this one would spur indiviudals to join atlarge organizations like icannatlarge.org and help to make it a reality. For anyone interested, the members mail list page is at http://mailman.icannatlarge.org/mailman/listinfo/m embers and the website is http://www.icannatlarge.org.

    It's a bumpy road, but if individuals really do want a voice, they must come together as a cohesive group. The alternative is to have more survey results like this one.
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