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    Section 4.2
    by GeorgeK on Tuesday December 09 2003, @10:07PM (#12732)
    User #3191 Info | http://www.kirikos.com/
    Section 4.2 will be very useful in the WLS case (or unhelpful, if one shills for Jones Day).
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    Interesting study, but.....
    by Anonymous on Wednesday December 10 2003, @06:03PM (#12737)
    I've only read the abstract, but I think something to factor into the analysis on point 1 is how representative the most vocal ICANN critics (including those on the public forum boards, sites like this one, and the various listservs) are of general attitudes towards ICANN's decision-making.

    The abstract reflects this, I think. They say that the postings on the various public fora do not correlate with the ultimate decisions by the Board. Rather, the Board seems to look more to the staff and to the SOs. What conclusion do the authors draw from this? That the Board ignores public input? No. They conclude that ICANN has failed to draw representative public comments.

    In short if, as some (though not necessarily I) believe, the vocal critics represent a fringe element rather than a "consensus" (no pun intended), then should ICANN be faulted for not listening?

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    Libelous in parts
    by WIPOorgUK on Tuesday December 16 2003, @05:55AM (#12747)
    User #3146 Info | http://wipo.org.uk/
    My name is mentioned in this potentially libellous paper.

    I am said to be a person whom often flames others and rarely makes substantiated comments.

    I invite John Palfrey, Clifford Chen, Sam Hwang, and Noah Eisenkraft to respond.

    I am sure several of the learned posters here will agree - most of public are ignorant of ICANN and their actions.

    Also - I am first to admit - some here know more than I about ICANN - Messieurs Byfied and Froomkin to name but two.

    But where I give supportive reasoned opinion - this paper does not - especially where it may libel some heavy posters.

    Anybody that reads my posts knows that I make substantiated comments and I never initiate flame - although have replied in kind upon occassion. The same is true of a few others named.

    Quote from the paper:

    Type: Open Bulletin Board

    Example: forum.icann.org

    Traffic: forum.icann.org supplies public forums where anybody in the world can discuss issues ICANN is facting. Most users come to the forums to make significant substantive comments and do so.

    Heavy Posters: The heavy posters are people who invested a lot of time in the forum community. They often flame one another and do not consistently make substantive comments.

    The Top Posters: Garry Anderson, Clrako the Darko, Gregory W. Kajewski, Friedrich Kister, Leon Coser, Christopher Ambler, Jim Fleming, Bryan, Rachel MacGregor, Bob Conner, Daniel R. Tobias, W, Mole, Antipodes, slicer.
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    Frequent poster?
    by cambler (chris@ambler.net) on Tuesday December 16 2003, @11:23AM (#12748)
    User #36 Info | http://onthenet.ambler.net/
    How amusing. I am lumped into the group of frequent posters as a flamer and someone who made no substantive comments.

    I think the authors of the paper would find, if they bothered to read the posts, that virtually all of my posts were substantive. I was one of the only TLD applicants who bothered to answer questions and be responsive on the public forum, making the presumption that it counted for something.

    So not only did my participation count for nothing, I am now damned for having participated and called unsubstantive (at best).

    I think an apology from the authors is more than in order.

    Ambler On The Net [ambler.net]

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    • I concur by WIPOorgUK Tuesday December 16 2003, @12:41PM
      • Re:I concur by JPalfrey Tuesday December 16 2003, @12:49PM

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