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    Re: Groundbreaking NAF Decision in NEW.NET Domain
    by Anonymous on Thursday August 29 2002, @09:28PM (#8768)
    Not to detract from your UDRP and trademark focus - you use the phrase "official naming system of the Internet". There is no such "official" naming system. There is the dominant root system but it has not been annointed as "official" by anyone who has the authority and power to endow such a label.

    In the root system that I use, many of the new.net names are real and true top level domains; they are not virtualizations created by the appending of search suffixes to non FQDN (Fully Qualified Domain Names.)
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    Decision with links to the exhibits and proofs
    by simon on Friday August 30 2002, @12:32AM (#8770)
    User #2982 Info | http://www.nic.pro/
    You can browse the decision in full with links to the exhibits and proofs under http://sex.shop.steinle.biz

    See e.g. the Complainants "website", see the link to the Complainants abuse trademark registrations, see the link to the Case "Amazon.com, Inc v. Von Eric Lerner Kalaydjian et al, docket C00-1740R (U.S.D.C. W.D.Wa.)", look who has registered the domain name www.home.depot, ...nic.PRO will be back online soon with FREE sub-domains. Dowload the FREE plug-in at
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    Dan Tobias frequently browses the New.net message
    by simon on Friday August 30 2002, @07:42AM (#8797)
    User #2982 Info | http://www.nic.pro/
    like other professionals.

    Why do you think he knows about this decision? He posted there one or two times
    I started a thread about it there.

    Dan Tobias and other professionals know that New.net has some potential. In fact New.net does not offer "real" domain names. but their domain names act like "real" domain names for 130 million user. The ordinary Internet user does not care if it is a "real" domain name or if it is a New.net domain.

    Some of the new.net haters (why do they hate New.net? Did they missed an oppotunity?;-)) say: "New.net is dead".
    Quite the opposite is true. New.net domain names which are submitted to New.nets Quick! search engine perform better than ever. You may have a look at my stats :-) for http://www.drugs.shop

    New.net haters should realize that New.net will not go out of business. New.net has control over approximately 70 million browsers via their Plug-in. With this 70 million browser they can and in fact they generate the money to be profitable. Every entry which is not a "ICANN domain" or which is not a New.net domain which usually leads to an error page or to microsofts auto-search page is routed to New.nets quick! search engine, where relevant sites are listed. :-)

    Happy New.net bashing while I make money in providing and matching relevant content to my New.net domain names. ;-) :-)nic.PRO will be back online soon with FREE sub-domains. Dowload the FREE plug-in at
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    PIZZA.HUT is already registered!
    by simon on Saturday August 31 2002, @06:21AM (#8848)
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    check out more details on http://sex.shop.steinle.biznic.PRO will be back online soon with FREE sub-domains. Dowload the FREE plug-in at
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    Re: Groundbreaking NAF Decision in NEW.NET Domain
    by Samowamo on Saturday August 31 2002, @06:00PM (#8865)
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    This is the correct decision. There are a handful of trademark registrations that contain TLDs (in addition to Amazon.com, there is also Match.com; I imagine there must be a few others). The panelist was technically incorrect about something, however: New.net domain names are true SLDs when the ISP solution is used (he had suggested that the ISP does what the New.net client does: appends .new.net). The ISP DNS servers handle a query for a new.net SLD the same way that they handle a query for an ICANN SLD: they resolve through a cached IP address for the new.net extension--basically, the ISP DNS servers permanently cache the IP address for the New.net TLD instead of temporarily caching the address as they do with the IP addresses of the ICANN names. Other than this minor technical error, the decision seems like the correct one.
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    Decision now available on http://www.steinle.law.p
    by simon on Sunday September 01 2002, @09:31AM (#8880)
    User #2982 Info | http://www.nic.pro/
    Decision with some links to background infomation now available on http://www.steinle.law.pronic.PRO will be back online soon with FREE sub-domains. Dowload the FREE plug-in at
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