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    Re:Self-Regulation
    by RFassett on Tuesday October 14 2003, @11:49AM (#12460)
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    "Verisign has taken their position of control to insert themselves above others who were offering services."

    Verisign did not create the layer between wholesale and retail. Businesses chose to enter the retail market and then made business decisions of investment of which there is always risk (and also reward). If your business model depends soley upon that of one other, it only makes sense that yours will always be at risk. .com controls something like 80% of the market, business models have been built around this, retailers then becoming dependent upon the monopoly power (and reward) of a single dominant TLD. That's a pretty risky approach to me.

    Aside from this, I think we can agree that the consumer is not able to play its role of crosscheck (other than to not participate at all) to both wholesalers and retailers where the DNS market place is concerned and thus should not be part of the discussion. Verisign has monopoly power by way of concentration. There is no competition to .com by default and was really my original point to George and defines the source of the industry problem. Everything else is simply about who gets the $ as a result of the monopoly status in the DNS arena, in my opinion.
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    Re:Self-Regulation
    by cambler (chris@ambler.net) on Tuesday October 14 2003, @12:05PM (#12461)
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    I would normally agree but for one fact: the status quo for service offerings is managed by ICANN, and must abide by consensus policy. This is unique in the realm of monopolies. In this case, those who entered the retail market had a reasonable expectation of stability (at best), and an input into the consensus policy (at least).

    With WLS and SiteFinder, both "services" were introduced with consensus policy against them. This is the crux of the matter.

    Without the codified consensus policy requirement, I'd agree with you completely. With it, however, we have a whole different ballgame.

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