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    Re: Mueller speaks out on WLS (Warning: here be he
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Tuesday August 27 2002, @09:08PM (#8739)
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    While I agree with adding numerous new TLDs. having to rely on a hypothetical or even real dyslexic Blechfrie to make your case seems rather wonky. Belchfire can register belchfire.biz, or if they're in the UK, belchfire.co.uk, or in the US, belchfire.us. Companies that have refused to be shaken down for *.com for a year or two don't have to worry about the squatter re-registering it, the extortion didn't work so they'll move on to greener pastures and let the name expire. Getting a WLS on the name, as you say, just tells them to hang onto it. Not getting a WLS means it will probably expire and not be picked up by anyone, no other squatter will try where the first one failed.

    But this is built on too many hypotheticals, there aren't a bunch of Belchfire's out there just lusting after their proper name, the WLS market is driven by those who want existing sites with existing traffic that they can then redirect (more accurately, misdirect) to pr0n and/or gambling sites. .com is already a wasteland of 404 errors and coming soon and for sale pages, institutionalizing a service that will ensure mousetrapping multiple popup sites where entirely unrelated sites used to exist will just further devalue .com. VeriSign doesn't care, they'd rather have more money now than less later, and ICANN seems to agree with that strategy. The long term effect will be that .com will be further devalued and other gTLDs and ccTLDs will become more trustworthy and thus more used. So even without more new gTLDs the worm is turning. -g

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    Re: Mueller speaks out on WLS (Warning: here be he
    by RFassett on Wednesday August 28 2002, @02:33AM (#8743)
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    Whether one advocates, or does not advocate, new TLD's for whatever logical and seemingly justifiable reasons, the question to me is whether ICANN is acting a regulator to the market place by restricting entry.

    ICANN, the private entity, continues to claim it is not, is not intended to be, nor has the "will" to be a market regulator for DNS addressing. By restricting entry thus limiting the number of TLD registries - some say artificially but certainly without any clear documentation as to why as pointed out by the NTEPPTF itself - is ICANN not acting as a market regulator?

    Was ICANN's role intended to be one where it would "foster" competition that in spirit would seem to remove itself as a regulator? Has ICANN not completely twisted this around to where it becomes - by its owns actions - a market regulator? Is ICANN structurally - by design - incapable of playing the role of a global DNS regulator?

    By restricting entry, does ICANN not gain precious leverage with the few registries it has contracts with whereby it can then further influence regulatory measures upon the market place, notably the user community? No "mutually agreed" contract, no entry (see .pro delay).

    If ICANN sets up a system for entry, will it not lose this leverage, or certainly more likely to be challenged on its authority to impose market place regulatory measures in its registry contracts? If so, will ICANN not lose much of its ability to centrally regulate the market place, such as imposing sponsorships, price controls, and new product service offerings?

    Whether one agrees or disagrees with TLD expansion for whatever logical reasoning, the question is to me: Is ICANN acting as a market regulator by restricting entry? ICANN claims to have no desire to regulate the market place. After 4 years, one limted expansion round, the entangled registry contracts this produced, and no documented system for further entry, what do their actions say? Is ICANN acting as a market regulator? If one answers "yes", is it supposed to be, by its own definition, design, and structure? This, to me, is the issue, not the "opinion" of whether one thinks there should or should not be new TLD's for whatever justifiable reasons one believes.
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    Re: Mueller speaks out on WLS (Warning: here be he
    by PeterBarron (pebarron@hotmail.com) on Wednesday August 28 2002, @03:28AM (#8746)
    User #3240 Info | http://www.icannwatch.org/
    I believe .WEB would compete with .COM vigorously.

    ++Peter
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    Re: Mueller speaks out on WLS (Warning: here be he
    by Mueller ({mueller} {at} {syr.edu}) on Wednesday August 28 2002, @06:59AM (#8751)
    User #2901 Info | http://istweb.syr.edu/~mueller/
    I don't agree with the premise that new TLDs are "floundering." They are now growing at a pace of about 3% a month, and grew even while .com declined. After a little over one year, .info and .biz both have more registrations than .com had after three years following commercialization of DNS.

    It's true that results have not lived up to expectations, but the expectations were inflated and the applicants overextended themselves as a result. There are lots of small businesses that would love to have a million customers, each generating revenue of $5-6 per year, and the customer base growing at 30-35% annually, in a service that does not require heavy capital investment and has huge economies of scale. If you can't make a profit at that, there's something wrong with the way your business is managed.

    I agree that we need new TLDs that have the visibility and competitiveness of .com. I don't think we get there by limiting entry. In various markets (telecom is the one I am most familiar with) businesses and regulators often make the mistake of assuming that they can prop up the strength of existing competitors by limiting entry to a few, thereby assuring that the small numers will have major market shares and be "stronger" competitors. That doesn't work. The protected competitors tend to be weak and inefficient as a result. Neustar thought it was going to be the new NSI and spent far too much money on what should have been scaled as a small business.

    What actually happens is that you open entry, and many new competitors enter and try various strategies. Of course only a few survive, or grow to a major scale. But you never know who those few will be unless you open the gates completely.
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    It's not about whether you like VeriSign
    by Mueller ({mueller} {at} {syr.edu}) on Wednesday August 28 2002, @07:01AM (#8752)
    User #2901 Info | http://istweb.syr.edu/~mueller/
    It's about how you regulate registries, any registries. If VeriSign runs a poor ship they'll lose customers. I reject categorically the following syllogism:
    VeriSign sucks
    VeriSign wants something
    ergo,
    VeriSign should be denied, setting precedents
    for how the entire domain name registry business is regulated.
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