Inside ICANNWatch  
Submit Story
Lost Password
Site Messages
Top 10 Lists
Latest Comments
Search by topic

Our Mission
ICANN for Beginners
About Us
How To Use This Site
Slash Tech Info
Link to Us
Write to Us

  Useful ICANN sites  
  • ICANN itself
  • Bret Fausett's ICANN Blog
  • Internet Governance Project
  • UN Working Group on Internet Governance
  • Karl Auerbach web site
  • Müller-Maguhn home
  • UDRPinfo.com;
  • UDRPlaw.net;
  • CircleID;
  • LatinoamerICANN Project
  • ICB Tollfree News

  •   At Large Membership and Civil Society Participation in ICANN  
  • icannatlarge.com;
  • Noncommercial Users Constituency of ICANN
  • NAIS Project
  • ICANN At Large Study Committee Final Report
  • ICANN (non)Members page
  • ICANN Membership Election site

  • ICANN-Related Reading
    Browse ICANNWatch by Subject

    Ted Byfied
    - ICANN: Defending Our Precious Bodily Fluids
    - Ushering in Banality
    - ICANN! No U CANN't!
    - roving_reporter
    - DNS: A Short History and a Short Future

    David Farber
    - Overcoming ICANN (PFIR statement)

    A. Michael Froomkin
    - When We Say US™, We Mean It!
    - ICANN 2.0: Meet The New Boss
    - Habermas@ discourse.net: Toward a Critical Theory of Cyberspace
    - ICANN and Anti-Trust (with Mark Lemley)
    - Wrong Turn in Cyberspace: Using ICANN to Route Around the APA & the Constitution (html)
    - Form and Substance in Cyberspace
    - ICANN's "Uniform Dispute Resolution Policy"-- Causes and (Partial) Cures

    Milton Mueller
    - Ruling the Root
    - Success by Default: A New Profile of Domain Name Trademark Disputes under ICANN's UDRP
    - Dancing the Quango: ICANN as International Regulatory Regime
    - Goverments and Country Names: ICANN's Transformation into an Intergovernmental Regime
    - Competing DNS Roots: Creative Destruction or Just Plain Destruction?
    - Rough Justice: A Statistical Assessment of the UDRP
    - ICANN and Internet Governance

    David Post
    - Governing Cyberspace, or Where is James Madison When We Need Him?
    - The 'Unsettled Paradox': The Internet, the State, and the Consent of the Governed

    Jonathan Weinberg
    - Sitefinder and Internet Governance
    - ICANN, Internet Stability, and New Top Level Domains
    - Geeks and Greeks
    - ICANN and the Problem of Legitimacy

    Highlights of the ICANNWatch Archive
    (June 1999 - March 2001)

    This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
    Bankrupt .MD Operator Protests ICANN Action on .MD Redelegation | Log in/Create an Account | Top | 21 comments | Search Discussion
    Click this button to post a comment to this story
    The options below will change how the comments display
    Check box to change your default comment view
    The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
    Not about .md but about other ccTLDs...
    by KarlAuerbach on Tuesday September 02 2003, @10:40AM (#12144)
    User #3243 Info | http://www.cavebear.com/
    When I was on the board the entire body of information that we were given about a ccTLD redelegation was usually wrapped up in a fairly short note from "staff".

    Over time I got the impression that "staff" was building this short note based largely on anecdotal information that was obtained in some cases by site visits that were, to put it mildely, "managed" by the host.

    And one has only to look at the virtually unauthenticated letter that formed part of the .AF redelegation to see how weak is some of the evidence upon which ICANN undertakes to redelegate a ccTLD.

    (There was little doubt in my mind that certain ICANN "staffers" relish their self-image as jet setting arbiters of who is the "legitimate" government of a small country. The neo imperialist nature of that kind of activity seemed lost on ICANN's board and "staff".)

    And, over time, I became increasingly concerned that this "host" was not always vested with indisputable credentials and authority but was, instead, merely the most inventive or most visible among a number of interests wrestling for control. I came to fear that ICANN was being used as a tool by a political faction to overcome its oposition.
    As a practical matter, I found ICANN institutionally woefully unskilled and unsophisticated in the matters of recognizing who is in control of a state. Such questions are difficult even for professionals who work in the foreign affairs ministries and departments of state of established nations.

    ICANN is neither equipped nor designed to really evaluate who is really is the leading "c" in "ccTLD".
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Tuesday September 02 2003, @06:35PM (#12148)
    User #2810 Info
    DotMD was also the company behind the MdR2k dotlaw application [icann.org] during which they trumpeted their competence with running a TLD (.md) under a 25 year contract, which only goes to show how much BS (with apologies to the Bahamas [iana.org]) was being thrown around.

    And is Paul Kane still the sole registrant of record for various ccTLDs (which co-incidentally are, or were, marketed a la .md)? Seems that breaks various rules. Didn't stop him from applying [icann.org] at MdR2k either though. The near-death DotTV was another failed attempt at crossover. Hmmm, is there a pattern appearing here? We try to market 2 letter TLDs and fall flat on our faces so now we'll market more than 2 letter TLDs and make a fortune. Next, please.-g

    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Technical Contact
    by DavidHofmann on Thursday September 18 2003, @10:04AM (#12242)
    User #3842 Info
    “Whereas, on 10 March 2000, in resolution 00.13, the Board authorized the President and staff to work with the ccTLD managers, Governmental Advisory Committee, and other interested parties to prepare draft language for ccTLD contracts, policy statements, andor communications, including appropriate funding arrangements, to be presented to the Board and posted for public comment as soon as practicable;”

    I would think that the Technical Contact would considered in the category of “ccTLD managers” however as of this point I still have not been contacted despite several emails I have sent to ICANN.

    The actions and lack of action of ICANN and IANA over the last year have caused this ccTLD to fall to pieces. Currently the DNS servers are ether not active, inaccurate and refusing information to other servers.

    I have sent several requests concerning this mater in an attempted to fix it and been ignored or refused, as a result Moldova and the internet community suffers.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: .md
    by dmehus on Tuesday September 02 2003, @06:30PM (#12147)
    User #3626 Info | http://doug.mehus.info/
    Bravo. Well said. One does not have to look farther than the tiny island nation of Western Samoa or the Cocos Islands to see that those countries respective political leaders were abused, misled, and used in getting them to sign papers authorizing control of their ccTLDs to U.S. capitalist scum. Okay, that statement makes me sound like a Communist, but I'm not. They really do add a black eye to the successes of capitalism. Look at the executives from the company managing .WS.

    Oh, and what about .CC? It's pretty much the same thing. .TV? Same old song and dance.

    1. Two young "entrepreneurs" ("scum") travel to poor, third world island nation with no running water or technological advancements

    2. Dictate to nation's political leaders (gullable) the "benefits" of handing over control of their ccTLD to some upstart, venture (vulture) funded company in the U.S.

    3. Promises of "wealth" (i.e. some very small percentage of their revenues from domain name sales). Let's stop on this for a second and calculate it. The scum tell gullable that Island Nation will receive 5% of the revenues from annual domain name sales of .IN names. Now, most ccTLDs are only moderately successful. Let's say .IN registers 100,000 names in its first year (and that's being generous). A grade four math student would tell you that 5% of 100,000 is $5,000. How is $5,000 beneficial to the poor, helpless, and starving people of Island Nation?

    4. Aspirations of wealth grossly exaggerated. ccTLD does not receive targeted one million registrations in first year.

    5. ccTLD manager goes bankrupt. Vulture swarm in to bankruptcy court looking to reclaim some of their pathetically stupid investment.

    Alternate 5. Gullable, as if it hadn't learned from its mistake, requests redelegation of .IN back to itself, only to again lease it out to new scum (see .LA).

    A somewhat humourous, slightly cynical, but mostly serious view. And I'm only 20.

    DougDoug Mehus http://doug.mehus.info/ [mehus.info]
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re: dotmd.com openingbrief
    by fweyer on Thursday September 04 2003, @12:51PM (#12163)
    User #3833 Info
    I am the author of the brief. The facts are all documented. The U.S. Dept. of Commerce does in fact have final oversight of ccTLD redelegations and DNS changes. ICANN operates the IANA function under contract with the U.S. Dept. of Commerce. Furthermore, the issue in the brief was whether a U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Atlanta can order transfer of control of a ccTLD. Clearly it cannot.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re:Icann is acting in bad faith
    by KarlAuerbach on Sunday September 07 2003, @12:46AM (#12170)
    User #3243 Info | http://www.cavebear.com/
    I disagree.

    It is an open question whether ICANN is to act as a consumer protection agency or not.

    If ICANN is to be a consumer protection body, as you suggest it ought to be, then one might think that it ought to allow consumers into the inner sanctums of its decision making structures rather than casting consumers into the wilderness of RALOs and "structures".

    (By-the-way, your post is amazingly precient if it was in fact posted in 1969.)
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
  • 4 replies beneath your current threshold.

  • Search ICANNWatch.org:

    Privacy Policy: We will not knowingly give out your personal data -- other than identifying your postings in the way you direct by setting your configuration options -- without a court order. All logos and trademarks in this site are property of their respective owner. The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 by ICANNWatch.Org. This web site was made with Slashcode, a web portal system written in perl. Slashcode is Free Software released under the GNU/GPL license.
    You can syndicate our headlines in .rdf, .rss, or .xml. Domain registration services donated by DomainRegistry.com