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    Re:This is a really dumb lawsuit
    by KarlAuerbach on Wednesday August 20 2003, @07:16PM (#12102)
    User #3243 Info | http://www.cavebear.com/
    I don't agree.

    The right to not to use an asset (or contractual right) is often just as valuable as the right to use that asset.

    Quite frequently companies register domain names in anticipation; that anticipation does not always flower quickly or even ever. Take the case of the split of Hewlett Packard into HP and what is now named Agilent. Agilent (before it adopted that name) registered several domain names, one for each of the names it was considering. In that situation the intent of registering those names was merely to exclude others.

    Domain names are not such a scarce resource that public policy demands that every one is socially precious and must be used.

    Moreover, even if one does plan to set up name servers, that does not justify the seller of the name from jumping in and using that name in the interim. How would you feel if you bought a new car, and while you were going home to fetch the trade-in, the dealer took your new car out for a night on the town while proclaiming to the world that the driver and all the acts of that driver is you?

    In more crude terms, what this plaintiff is saying is that Register.com is asserting the domain name equivalent of the old droit du signor to ravish the domain name while the name's new husband is getting ready in the other room.

    By-the-way, there is no extra packet transaction overhead for a name that has been registered but which doesn't (yet or ever) have any NS records. So your argument about looking up non-existant resources doesn't seem to have a lot of weight.
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    Re:This is a really dumb lawsuit by KarlAuerbach
    Re:This is a really dumb lawsuit
    by jberryhill on Thursday August 21 2003, @02:18AM (#12103)
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    No Karl, this is not a case of someone "jumping in" and using it, as you put it.

    Even if you register a domain name in anticipation of future use, then you put in name servers that YOU CONTROL if you want to control the use of the domain name. Register.com was simply putting in default values for registrants who failed to specify their nameservers, because the RFC requires two nameservers.

    This is more like me tying my horse to a tree in your yard, and then complaining to you that your grass gave my horse indigestion.

    So, just to make sure I understand you, I am going to point the nameservers for all of my unused domain names to cavebear.com and your server can say "NXDOMAIN" 24/7. In the meantime, don't you dare put in any records for those domain names, or else you will be interfering with my exclusive use of my property. You just keep those servers powered up and saying nix. I will also encourage millions of other people to do this. Do we have a deal?

    Nobody said anything about domain names having to be used here. The question is what gave this plaintiff or his prospective class the right to tell register.com what THEY could do with THEIR property? If you read the appellate court opinion, the issue is about deprivation of "exclusive control", and several other causes of action were struck from the complaint. The fact is the registrants were never deprived of "control" - they always had the ability to point those domain names where they wanted. But, yes, I believe that Register.com had a right to exclusive control of its property. Why doesn't that argument cut both ways?
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