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    Have a look at New.net
    by simon on Wednesday August 13 2003, @03:09AM (#12041)
    User #2982 Info | http://www.nic.pro/
    I always said it: "Have a look at New.net".

    sex.shop [sex.shop]nic.PRO will be back online soon with FREE sub-domains. Dowload the FREE plug-in at
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    by fnord (reversethis-{moc.oohay} {ta} {k2yorg}) on Wednesday August 13 2003, @01:04PM (#12045)
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    Using new.net as part of a broad-based coalition to get into the ICANN root seems the height of idiocy. First, new.net is not looked upon favorably by ICANN for a number of reasons (right or wrong).

    Second, one of the knocks against IOD's .web attempt to get into the root was that there were already registrants who would probably need to be grandfathered in. New.net used to have some featured new.net names listed on their site but I've searched their current iteration in vain for any such list. It never was very long and certainly didn't contain many (if any) .travel sites anyway, so it is hard to imagine that anyone other than speculators would be put out if currently registered names aren't grandfathered in (and before new.netters start their usual wailing, I'm not advocating such a course). Still, I fail to see how such a partnership could be of benefit to the IATA unless it is to avoid potential litigation. -g

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    3+ TLDs don't work well
    by KarlAuerbach on Thursday August 14 2003, @10:37AM (#12060)
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    A painfully large number of web pages and back-room applications do not accept email addresses with more than three characters in the TLD part of the address.

    Thus, your.name@sick-on-a-cruise.travel is likely to be unusable because "travel" contains more than three characters.

    This disease is built into Javascript on zillions of web pages and into cgi-bin scripts on zillions of others.

    Any 3+ character TLD has a big uphill fight to get all of those restrictions removed.

    By-the-way, I consider .travel to have absolutely zero benefit to the internet community at large. There is no reason why ICANN should go forward and reward yet another limited business sector with a prize while refusing that boon to those who might actually create something of benefit to the public.
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    by fnord (reversethis-{moc.oohay} {ta} {k2yorg}) on Thursday August 14 2003, @06:17PM (#12071)
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    More to the point of the article, when new.net first released its plugin I managed to capture it (it was relatively simple so I don't know why newnetters were complaining they couldn't get a copy to provide for download) and take it apart.

    The way it worked then (I don't know about now) was that it contained all the existing legacy gTLD strings and all existing ccTLD strings. If one typed unregistered-name.travel, or even unregistered-name.foo one was served up with the new.net site. That is, it worked by a system of exclusion along the lines of:

    If TLD string = ICANN TLD string
    Then goto ICANN root
    Else goto new.net

    Interestingly the plugin included the then recently okayed but not yet functional .info, .biz etc. I find it hard to believe that if .travel was okayed by ICANN that new.net wouldn't similarily recognize it. Let's look at the possibilities.

    1. new.net recognizes only it's own travel. That would make it less useful.

    2. new.net recognizes only ICANN .travel. That would make its registrants howl (and perhaps, though I doubt, it even sue).

    3. new.net recognizes both and where there is a collision it chooses either itself or ICANN (or even serves up a page which points to both).

    It will be interesting to see where they go with this, but I can't see ICANN losing much sleep over it. -g

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    more on the Tralliance / New.net mtg.
    by ehasbrouck on Thursday August 21 2003, @12:25PM (#12111)
    User #3130 Info | http://hasbrouck.org
    from Travel Weekly (free registration required) [twcrossroads.com]

    "Dot-travel promoters in 'productive' talks (8/18/2003), by Andrew Compart...

    "Tralliance president Ron Andruff... emphasized that his company is not taking potential Icann approval for granted or as a foregone conclusion.

    "But Andruff said the meeting ended with an understanding that, "when or if" Tralliance receives Icann approval, the two companies will "find a way to make sure bona-fide travel and tourism representatives, including those that have a New.net name, will find a home within the Icann-accredited dot-travel.""

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