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    Rape of the 'Rushers
    by Anonymous on Wednesday July 16 2003, @11:27PM (#11972)
    Easy to see how the words "nudes, foot, ethos, angels, and sick" et al are good fits to the domain registration biz, no? Perdon, "sick" Si! A fave: "yourbra". The "Dot"(TM) org door prize for a job well done. Suggest well documented research on sunrise concerns be forwarded to Scotland Yard, FBI, RCMP and Interpol et cetera. Afilias, what say thee? Amicus Curiae-ous
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    domain.info, Lubsen/Fogel Screw Consumers
    by Anonymous on Friday July 18 2003, @05:03AM (#11977)
    domains.info and domain.info Check the whois, Lubsen and Fogel screw consumers.
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    We're Registrars! We can grab the names first!
    by Anonymous on Friday July 18 2003, @04:35PM (#11980)

    Heather Carle is on record as saying that every one of the "Registrar Reserved" names were QUOTE: "hand-checked".

    In defence of Hal Lubsen (who I have criticised on many scores previously) I must mention that I checked to see if he had an up and running FortKnox.com site at the time of the .info Sunrise, and he did indeed have a website operating at this site.

    The real criticism, though, and I think Jeff Davies makes this point, is:

    Why should the Registrars get first pick of domain names, to the exclusion of other people?

    I thought the whole point of the Sunrise was to enable IP claimants access to these names, so how do you justify letting the "suppliers" nip in first and take them, instead of "supplying" them... which, forgive me, I thought was the purpose of a Registrar!

    With reference to Signature domains, I'm bound to allude once again to their performance in the .biz2B, where they submitted an incredibly short list of names, for just one customer (their own Partner Joshua Blacker)... thereby effectively queue-jumping the general public, because the round-robin system favoured the shortest queues possible.

    I phoned Joshua about this extraordinary policy, and he admitted he was a Signature partner in whose name nine fantastic names had been acquired, but he told me "You should speak to Barry because he knows what this is all about, I don't really know anything."

    This was one of a host of issues I raised with ICANN-Registrar Liaison Dan Halloran, 425 days ago, and I am deeply disappointed that he has *never* even had the courtesy to reply to me.

    What is the point of "ICANN accreditation"? What is the point of ICANN Agreements (when, for example, Lubsen's DomainBank broke the Afilias rules, even though Hal Lubsen was Afilias CEO)? Amazingly DomainBank charged $15000 to a customer, to submit ineligible applications which broke Afilias's rules, and which were therefore valueless. Another member of the Afilias cartel - Speednames - charged $500,000 to submit 4981 ineligible Sunrise applications.

    It seems to me that what we have here is a system which is set up to serve the suppliers rather than the consumers.

    In this light, it is entirely logical that Registrars were allowed "first pick" of the .info names.

    And in the context of fraud and corruption which ran far deeper than anything cited here, I suppose it is entirely logical that Dan Halloran has refused to respond to my fair and serious concerns, because ...

    ... ICANN has no defence.


    Richard Henderson

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    Offensive conduct
    by Anonymous on Friday July 18 2003, @10:50PM (#11981)
    From the looks of things, it appears some registrars felt they could act with impunity and did not heed clear rules. Henry, the question is: why? Shouldn't reston your laurels.
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    Websites vs domain names
    by ldg on Saturday July 19 2003, @06:51AM (#11982)
    User #2935 Info | http://example.com/
    Although it is obvious that registrars abused the so-called Sunrise policy for registrations, I fail to see the necessity of publishing websites for any domain name if a registrant chooses not to do so. Domain names are used for many things besides websites and the fact that the public is ignorant of those uses is no excuse for the expectation of websites or content. Domain names are often used for provision of sublevel domains for users, email only, hostname conventions, and other non-website uses. A typical hostname use might be [dns.acorp.info], [ns.acorp.info], [sales.acorp.info], [archives.acorp.info], [somedept.acorp.info] [intranet.acorp.info]... The examples could also represent third level domains offered to acorp's users or a primary domain for just email accounts [myname.emailcorp.info], [yourname.emailcorp.info], [mail-listname.emailcorp.info]...

    Nothing requires having a website in order to use a domain.
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    Why do corrupt cowards not reply?
    by WIPOorgUK on Saturday July 19 2003, @10:48AM (#11985)
    User #3146 Info | http://wipo.org.uk/
    Many small businesses share the same words as big business with trademark.

    Giving Registrars and Trademarks priority in Sunrise Period is violation of Antitrust Law.

    Can one single Lawyer deny this hard FACT?

    The people at Afilias and ICANN also abridge the common persons choice of words with this unlawful scheme.

    They and tight-lipped Lawyers are all pathetic cowards.
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    Keith Lubsen's registration of angels.info
    by JeffD on Sunday July 20 2003, @10:40AM (#11990)
    User #3702 Info
    A possible explanation for Keith Lubsen's registration of angels.info is provided by a report at http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/DailyNews/mo rphine0601.html which, for some reason, reports the support of Mr Lubsen for a Dr Robert Weitzel who was accused of the murder of 5 elderly patients under his care. The doctor was convicted and jailed but later released and acquitted on retrial.

    Killer or angel of mercy was the question asked by the report - and perhaps one that Mr Lubsen wished to address using his acquisition of angels.info. Clearly a wholly legitimate use of a registrar's ability to reserve domain names for their own use prior to them being available to the general public!

    Jeff Davies
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    by Anonymous on Sunday August 03 2003, @07:50PM (#12022)
    The NYSE is being probed for conflict of interest.
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